iworkwhippets 13,274 Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago 28 minutes ago, greg64 said: no i going to put my vote where i think it will count and i'm not quite ready to roll over like people like you and just give up Put your vote where you think it counts,.Folks have been doing that fer yonks, and look where it's got us, a land full of filth, raping young girls, shoplifters, murderers , it's far to late for Britain, get ya head out the clouds, and that's me done on the subject now, truth hurts doesn't it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 3,134 Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago 5 minutes ago, iworkwhippets said: Put your vote where you think it counts,.Folks have been doing that fer yonks, and look where it's got us, a land full of filth, raping young girls, shoplifters, murderers , it's far to late for Britain, get ya head out the clouds, and that's me done on the subject now, truth hurts doesn't it that's your truth not mine, and it's never to late to make a difference 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 11,364 Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago I honestly believe the acid test will come in the forth coming by election in Manchester if the Greens win this seat wich i think will be catastrophic for those of us with anti immigration views as no doubt the Greens will start to get a stronger foothold in the political arena. Reform really need to win this seat. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 33,623 Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 10 hours ago, iworkwhippets said: Put your vote where you think it counts,.Folks have been doing that fer yonks, and look where it's got us, a land full of filth, raping young girls, shoplifters, murderers , it's far to late for Britain, get ya head out the clouds, and that's me done on the subject now, truth hurts doesn't it The only truth in your posts, is proving the case for assisted suicide you silly old prick, 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,787 Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 3 hours ago, tatsblisters said: I honestly believe the acid test will come in the forth coming by election in Manchester if the Greens win this seat wich i think will be catastrophic for those of us with anti immigration views as no doubt the Greens will start to get a stronger foothold in the political arena. Reform really need to win this seat. And they'd have a better chance of doing so if the wee fuckwit Ben Habib didn't need his ego massaged. Why the fcuk is another rightwing party with no chance of winning going up against a rightwing party ?. Herein lies the problem, too many I want to be the captain it's my right types in the rightwing politics now seeking the limelight. If they all genuinely wanted the best possible outcome for Britain then it wouldn't be so difficult. If Reform, restore Britain, Advance and Ukip all united there would be absolutely no doubt who would win seats. Next government would be rightwing, no ifs, buts, hopefully. It would be a landslide. The fact they aren't tells me some or all of them are shysters, career politicians like the shite that has preceeded them. The only one with political experience is Farage (might be a negative to be fair). The only party that has any chance of winning is Reform (are the rest there to weaken the right?). That in itself would indicate that you have vote Reform, I am, I'm not niave, not a dreamer, not a right wing nutter. But at least if they get in and they're full of shit then we can say we tried the democratic peaceful way before the carnage began. Because sure as night follows day, that's what's coming next. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 33,623 Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago Well if your after some good news the BNP have won in Bangladesh 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 52,278 Posted 8 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 15 minutes ago, mackay said: And they'd have a better chance of doing so if the wee fuckwit Ben Habib didn't need his ego massaged. Why the fcuk is another rightwing party with no chance of winning going up against a rightwing party ?. Herein lies the problem, too many I want to be the captain it's my right types in the rightwing politics now seeking the limelight. If they all genuinely wanted the best possible outcome for Britain then it wouldn't be so difficult. If Reform, restore Britain, Advance and Ukip all united there would be absolutely no doubt who would win seats. Next government would be rightwing, no ifs, buts, hopefully. It would be a landslide. The fact they aren't tells me some or all of them are shysters, career politicians like the shite that has preceeded them. The only one with political experience is Farage (might be a negative to be fair). The only party that has any chance of winning is Reform (are the rest there to weaken the right?). That in itself would indicate that you have vote Reform, I am, I'm not niave, not a dreamer, not a right wing nutter. But at least if they get in and they're full of shit then we can say we tried the democratic peaceful way before the carnage began. Because sure as night follows day, that's what's coming next. Interesting post mate. What about Reform is “right wing” ?……I think they have become centre ground at best but I’m happy to be corrected. Why would a “right wing” party throw out Rupert Lowe in favour of a Lee Anderson or Robert Jenrick or Nadine Dorris ? I’ve been thinking a lot about Farage and trying to be honest with my evaluation: He is a fantastic orator, it’s his greatest strength and he is probably one of the best in world politics at it. I think he did great work to force the Brexit vote, he should be rightly remembered in a good light for that. However, when it was done he buggered off…..ok, he may have thought in good faith governments would carry it through (which we all did in fairness) but that has been proved to be a massive miscalculation. He then started UKIP and when he had the Tory’s by the throat he did a deal with Boris and stood aside…..why ? What, if we are being honest, is Reform now without Farage…..would we vote for Anderson, Jenrick, Dorris, Yousef and all the myriad other ex Tory’s ?……because I don’t think anyone would, well, certainly not anyone who wanted proper change When you are alienating, distancing, sacking the people who are most vocal about the ordinary things the man on the street is saying, who are actually saying the brutal reality…..does that make Farage the prime minister we want ? If he is playing the game now, what’s to stop him keep just playing the game when elected ? Do you think he will be able to control the likes of Jenrick, Braverman, Yousef and all the other “ex” high ranking Tory’s once he has got them another 5 years at the feast ?…….for all his oration skills, is he that man ? We don’t have 5 years to find out….we have 3 parliaments left before Britain is minority white British ! 3 !! Why would a party that paints itself as wanting to clean the swamp then start employing all the same people that betrayed us ?…… Why would Farage not want to talk and throw his full weight behind Rupert Lowe’s Rape Gang enquiry and it’s dragging out into the sun the fact it’s a Muslim thing ? How is that different to what Labour and the Tory’s have been doing ? So, I’m coming to the conclusion that he undoubtedly think of himself as a patriot, he is an outstanding orator, he made Brexit happen but when push comes to shove he lacks substance. Reform are not “right wing” (or Christian conservative to give it its proper title), they are “right of far left” at best as it stands. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 3,134 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago (edited) advance uk and restore Britain are going to merge Edited 6 hours ago by greg64 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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mackay 3,787 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, WILF said: Interesting post mate. What about Reform is “right wing” ?……I think they have become centre ground at best but I’m happy to be corrected. Why would a “right wing” party throw out Rupert Lowe in favour of a Lee Anderson or Robert Jenrick or Nadine Dorris ? I’ve been thinking a lot about Farage and trying to be honest with my evaluation: He is a fantastic orator, it’s his greatest strength and he is probably one of the best in world politics at it. I think he did great work to force the Brexit vote, he should be rightly remembered in a good light for that. However, when it was done he buggered off…..ok, he may have thought in good faith governments would carry it through (which we all did in fairness) but that has been proved to be a massive miscalculation. He then started UKIP and when he had the Tory’s by the throat he did a deal with Boris and stood aside…..why ? What, if we are being honest, is Reform now without Farage…..would we vote for Anderson, Jenrick, Dorris, Yousef and all the myriad other ex Tory’s ?……because I don’t think anyone would, well, certainly not anyone who wanted proper change When you are alienating, distancing, sacking the people who are most vocal about the ordinary things the man on the street is saying, who are actually saying the brutal reality…..does that make Farage the prime minister we want ? If he is playing the game now, what’s to stop him keep just playing the game when elected ? Do you think he will be able to control the likes of Jenrick, Braverman, Yousef and all the other “ex” high ranking Tory’s once he has got them another 5 years at the feast ?…….for all his oration skills, is he that man ? We don’t have 5 years to find out….we have 3 parliaments left before Britain is minority white British ! 3 !! Why would a party that paints itself as wanting to clean the swamp then start employing all the same people that betrayed us ?…… Why would Farage not want to talk and throw his full weight behind Rupert Lowe’s Rape Gang enquiry and it’s dragging out into the sun the fact it’s a Muslim thing ? How is that different to what Labour and the Tory’s have been doing ? So, I’m coming to the conclusion that he undoubtedly think of himself as a patriot, he is an outstanding orator, he made Brexit happen but when push comes to shove he lacks substance. Reform are not “right wing” (or Christian conservative to give it its proper title), they are “right of far left” at best as it stands. Wilf, you pretty much sum up word for word what I think, and you very well may be right about Farage. But its about choices mate, in the here and now and none of the others are in a position to deliver what Reform says they can and will. I fully understand peoples reservations, I have them myself and I didn't come down with the last shower. If Reform don't deliver a great deal of what they say in a first term then I'll be brutally honest the whole system is fcuked and voting doesn't matter. The way the country is headed and I don't want to sound melodramatic, if something isn't done soon its literally going to be a war zone. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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