TRUEBRIT66 2,439 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 Been sacked............................. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 33,817 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 For plotting to defect to reform apparently Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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WILF 52,571 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 A man who is a pure Cameronite, wanted to stay in the EU…..need I go on ? Surely there’s no coming back for Reform from people who loathed the Tory’s & Labour in equal measure if he joins ? 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 29,585 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 10 minutes ago, WILF said: A man who is a pure Cameronite, wanted to stay in the EU…..need I go on ? Surely there’s no coming back for Reform from people who loathed the Tory’s & Labour in equal measure if he joins ? Was he a Cameronite ? Hes one of the most right wing Tory MP’s; wants to leave the ECHR, strict border controls, deportations , etc. He has said today’s Conservative Party is “ too Liberal Democratic “ for him, but is it just an act ? That doesn’t mean I’m happy if he joins Reform, I’m hoping Farage sees it as another nail in the Tory’s coffin, but I’m not sure. There is many Machevellian plots and twists in politics, I think Farage is out to destroy the Tory’s and sees Labour as his only challenger and are beatable . Interesting times . Cheers. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRUEBRIT66 2,439 Posted January 15 Author Report Share Posted January 15 Didnt he also resign in protest over the Rwanda policy stalling and has been quite vocal on demographic change in certain parts of the UK? Looking like he was pushed before he jumped as Reform had a big reveal planned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.357shooter 1,455 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 Who cares will make no difference to me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 33,817 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 Another 21 local elections being cancelled the main party’s are in melt down I couldn’t care were it goes but it’s the start of the end of two party politics and hopefully the whole house of cards comes crashing down Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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WILF 52,571 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 46 minutes ago, chartpolski said: Was he a Cameronite ? Hes one of the most right wing Tory MP’s; wants to leave the ECHR, strict border controls, deportations , etc. He has said today’s Conservative Party is “ too Liberal Democratic “ for him, but is it just an act ? That doesn’t mean I’m happy if he joins Reform, I’m hoping Farage sees it as another nail in the Tory’s coffin, but I’m not sure. There is many Machevellian plots and twists in politics, I think Farage is out to destroy the Tory’s and sees Labour as his only challenger and are beatable . Interesting times . Cheers. I like to give my lefty mate Jukel a dig in the ribs verbally when we have our little chats on here and I accused him yesterday of singing himself a song about voting for a party where what they are is obvious….. Im now going to say the same about voting Reform, we are singing ourself a song in order to deny the obvious. There was a glimmer for a second of hope, but now that’s gone…..if we don’t accept that reality then we are lying to ourselves. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,836 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 Would it make things look better if some labour mp's defected ?. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,866 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 I wouldnt be in the least bit surprised to see Tony Blair pitch up at this Reform shindig. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 9,038 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 3 hours ago, gnasher16 said: I wouldnt be in the least bit surprised to see Tony Blair pitch up at this Reform shindig. I think when farage suggested Blair might be suitable for some position or other a few years ago he got a lot of flack and...I'll see if I can find the vid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 9,038 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 Anyway ,I agree I think a couple of front Benchers maybe and some worldly folk but I don't want to see a ridiculous amount of Tories. Hopefully he'll cap it, and maybe once they've been in and fulfilled a couple of promises ie echr and mod stopping illegals they can get the balls rolling on proper reform... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 9,038 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 I honestly feel this is last ditch on peaceful civil change and if he fecks it up it'll be absolute carnage, so it's kind of win win or lose lose whatever your politics are.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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