Reform ?

[chartpolski 29,144]

13 minutes ago, WILF said:

You are of course entitled to that opinion mate, with the greatest of respect I think you are singing yourself a song, but that is just my opinion.

I think your last paragraph is telling and one I think is the case for many reform people….”hope”…..they are hoping rather than studying the form and coming to uncomfortable conclusions.

Again, just my very humble opinion mate.

Hope is just about all we have mate

The alternative is unthinkable; a coalition of Labour, Greens, LibDems and SNP.

As I keep saying; I’ll vote Reform until a viable alternative is offered , then I’ll study that alternative and make a decision

Cheets.

[Lenmcharristar 10,536]

55 minutes ago, WILF said:

You are of course entitled to that opinion mate, with the greatest of respect I think you are singing yourself a song, but that is just my opinion.

I think your last paragraph is telling and one I think is the case for many reform people….”hope”…..they are hoping rather than studying the form and coming to uncomfortable conclusions.

Again, just my very humble opinion mate.

As much as i agree with you on your thoughts and opinions, what do you suggest to do? There will still be a lot of english snobs and leftists who will vote liberal democrat etc, the working man only has this one last chance before it goes tits up, to be fair reform are not the total answer but a step in the right direction and with trumps backing from the USA wewill no doubt see a shift in opinions expressed and changes pushed towards the right again, facts is we will never win against these libatrds as they just drop away after a defeat, take stock and come back as another perverted violent party just under a different name and hope a lot of the old following now living in theyre parents basements will crawl back out and join the ranks again, its just the normal/ right that need to keep winning the bigger majority and doing what the people want instead of the globalists to make sure they dont let the libtards get power again as it will soon go to feck if they do

[.357shooter 1,435]

It doesn't matter what we vote for ever.meet the new boss same as the old boss.do you really think the political elite would leave the running of the country into hell by chance?.

[WILF 52,109]

35 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said:

As much as i agree with you on your thoughts and opinions, what do you suggest to do? There will still be a lot of english snobs and leftists who will vote liberal democrat etc, the working man only has this one last chance before it goes tits up, to be fair reform are not the total answer but a step in the right direction and with trumps backing from the USA wewill no doubt see a shift in opinions expressed and changes pushed towards the right again, facts is we will never win against these libatrds as they just drop away after a defeat, take stock and come back as another perverted violent party just under a different name and hope a lot of the old following now living in theyre parents basements will crawl back out and join the ranks again, its just the normal/ right that need to keep winning the bigger majority and doing what the people want instead of the globalists to make sure they dont let the libtards get power again as it will soon go to feck if they do

My default position has always been to just vote honestly….that may mean reform for some people but it wouldn’t for me anymore.

I wouldn’t reward traitors is how I would look at it, but that just my own funny opinion mate.

Im not digging anyone out, just having conversations 

[Lenmcharristar 10,536]

2 minutes ago, WILF said:

My default position has always been to just vote honestly….that may mean reform for some people but it wouldn’t for me anymore.

I wouldn’t reward traitors is how I would look at it, but that just my own funny opinion mate.

Im not digging anyone out, just having conversations 

I know youre  not, as i said i defo think similar to yourself, only i see reform as the last chance before it gets real violent, advance uk are too early yet and we cant do another left government or its kaput for the UK, but this 1st past the post needs sorting too to make it fair

[WILF 52,109]

1 minute ago, Lenmcharristar said:

I know youre  not, as i said i defo think similar to yourself, only i see reform as the last chance before it gets real violent, advance uk are too early yet and we cant do another left government or its kaput for the UK, but this 1st past the post needs sorting too to make it fair

Yep I hear you, but I think violence is inevitable now…..these lawyers that have run the world since Blair are fresh out of ideas, it’s just not in their nature to think like a nationalist or a Christian. 
May as well get on with it rather than prolong the agony 

[Lenmcharristar 10,536]

14 minutes ago, WILF said:

Yep I hear you, but I think violence is inevitable now…..these lawyers that have run the world since Blair are fresh out of ideas, it’s just not in their nature to think like a nationalist or a Christian. 
May as well get on with it rather than prolong the agony 

Feck i may get the bag back up anain, que the rocky and terminator 2 sound tracks

[mackem 31,293]

13 hours ago, kanny said:

Suella Braverman has jumped  apparently..

 

 

[ditchman 4,099]

Reform has evolved.......................

dosnt matter squat what i think ..or do...or say about Reform.....as ive said before if they dont get out of the ECHR and acheive 50% oftheir promises....without years of fecking about....they will go down the pan...

[mackay 3,775]

58 minutes ago, ditchman said:

Reform has evolved.......................

dosnt matter squat what i think ..or do...or say about Reform.....as ive said before if they dont get out of the ECHR and acheive 50% oftheir promises....without years of fecking about....they will go down the pan...

One term to see a major difference. They won't get any longer. The British public are now totally pissed off with politicians of all colours.  And when I say a major difference I mean ICE style raids and deportations.

[tatsblisters 11,314]

36 minutes ago, mackay said:

One term to see a major difference. They won't get any longer. The British public are now totally pissed off with politicians of all colours.  And when I say a major difference I mean ICE style raids and deportations.

Thing is mate if they do become the government after the next general election it will in my opinion be with a slim majority and no doubt all the other parties will curtail any proposed laws they implement when it comes to a vote in the house of commons. I will still vote for them on any ballot paper they are on however. 

[TRUEBRIT66 2,406]

19 minutes ago, tatsblisters said:

Thing is mate if they do become the government after the next general election it will in my opinion be with a slim majority and no doubt all the other parties will curtail any proposed laws they implement when it comes to a vote in the house of commons. I will still vote for them on any ballot paper they are on however. 

Agree, If Reform get in and do what they say they will they will get blocked at every turn, not because its the wrong thing to do but because its Reform and it dont fit the agenda of the left wing nut jobs. Problem is if there isn't change soon and common sense continues to be ignored we will be going down the route Wilf keeps predicting. 

Its a right shit show, honesty and common sense the two things British Politics is screaming out for.   

[gnasher16 31,735]

18 hours ago, Lenmcharristar said:

As much as i agree with you on your thoughts and opinions, what do you suggest to do? There will still be a lot of english snobs and leftists who will vote liberal democrat etc, the working man only has this one last chance before it goes tits up, to be fair reform are not the total answer but a step in the right direction and with trumps backing from the USA wewill no doubt see a shift in opinions expressed and changes pushed towards the right again, facts is we will never win against these libatrds as they just drop away after a defeat, take stock and come back as another perverted violent party just under a different name and hope a lot of the old following now living in theyre parents basements will crawl back out and join the ranks again, its just the normal/ right that need to keep winning the bigger majority and doing what the people want instead of the globalists to make sure they dont let the libtards get power again as it will soon go to feck if they do

This is where i see the big problem with Reform for what you describe as " normal / right " working class people.......we now know that Reform are clearly not as " right " as was once portrayed......to even describe them as centre right might be stretching it,but again,they are portrayed as a right wing party.

So now lets say they get in power and achieve nothing or worse still make a complete f**k up of everything.......the " right wing " narrative is then dead in the water for any genuine right wing party in the future as the public consensus will then be " no we've already tried a right wing party and that didnt work ".......people will dismiss other parties having never experienced a true right wing party !

Part of me thinks this whole Reform movement is actually being pushed in order to STOP a genuine right wing party ever coming to power.

[chartpolski 29,144]

The Tory’s have just announced a new group that is dedicated to moving the party further to the left, or as they term it “the centre ground”, to win over LibDem voters.

So the only party with a chance of winning a General Election that is even remotely “right wing ”, is Reform UK.

As I keep saying ; there is no viable alternative, the only other alternative is a Labour, LibDem, Greens, SNP coalition. If people think Labour are bad, this coalition would be disastrous !

Im willing to take a chance on Reform rather than risk a far left coalition.

If another viable right wing party comes along I’d look carefully at what they were offering.

Cheers.

 

Edited 10 hours ago by chartpolski

[mackem 31,293]