Charlie Kirk

[jukel123 9,561]

Always a pleasure to exchange  differences of opinion and interpretations of world events in an intelligent  grown up way Wilf.

I think I've set my views out and vice versa. I have nothing  further to add.  So wish you a good day.

[WILF 50,835]

3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Always a pleasure to exchange  differences of opinion and interpretations of world events in an intelligent  grown up way Wilf.

I think I've set my views out and vice versa. I have nothing  further to add.  So wish you a good day.

Likewise mate, and don’t forget, Make America Great Again !…..have a MAGA day old chap ! lol 

[jukel123 9,561]

2 minutes ago, WILF said:

Likewise mate, and don’t forget, Make America Great Again !…..have a MAGA day old chap ! lol 

P.S the hats are made in Taiwan.lol

[WILF 50,835]

6 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

P.S the hats are made in Taiwan.lol

The hats are made in Taiwan, the Arabs buy Trump a jet, Starmers glasses are £2500 paid for by a Pakistani and Dennis Skinner got put through university by union members subs !……..

When it comes to politicians of every political shade, someone else is paying for something ! 
 

Which as it happened just made a question pop up in my head, is it more disgusting that an Arab oil billionaire buys Trump a plane or that a working class miner pays for an education for Dennis Skinner that his kids will never get ? 
There’s a moral conundrum for you mate ? lol 

[jukel123 9,561]

12 minutes ago, WILF said:

The hats are made in Taiwan, the Arabs buy Trump a jet, Starmers glasses are £2500 paid for by a Pakistani and Dennis Skinner got put through university by union members subs !……..

When it comes to politicians of every political shade, someone else is paying for something ! 
 

Which as it happened just made a question pop up in my head, is it more disgusting that an Arab oil billionaire buys Trump a plane or that a working class miner pays for an education for Dennis Skinner that his kids will never get ? 
There’s a moral conundrum for you mate ? lol 

I get it.

But I guess the idea of sending Skinner to uni was so that that  he  could better represent them in Parliament. If you leave school at 14 ( I know we left at 13 due to circumstances beyond our control lol) then standing up in parliament with a working class accent and a rudimentary education would be very intimidating. So the education was paid for so he could compete on an equal basis.

Skinner became a bit of a pantomime turn. I didn't really rate him. Eventually neither did his constituents and he failed to be elected last time round.

Edited 5 hours ago by jukel123

[WILF 50,835]

1 minute ago, jukel123 said:

I get it.

But I guess the idea of sending Skinner to uni was so that that  he  could better represent them in Parliament. If you leave school at 14 ( I know we left at 13 due to circumstances beyond our control lol) then standing up in parliament with a working class accent would be very intimidating. So the education was paid for so he could compete on an equal basis.

Skinner became a bit of a pantomime turn. I didn't really rate him. Eventually neither did his constituents and he failed to be elected last time round.

Yep, understand all that mate, but as you have acknowledged the point is they are all poncing off someone and justifying it……he could have worked his own way through as most have to do but he didn’t !

Ive been watching “Band of Brothers” again on the telly and there was a great line in it that is wisdom I think for people in positions of leadership, one officer is talking to a new officer and he says “Never put yourself in a position where you take from these men” 

Thats called integrity and it’s sadly lacking in politics…..my point is, don’t bother looking for it because you won’t find it, just choose whatever weapon best suits your purpose at the time. 

[Bendigo 1,107]

19 minutes ago, WILF said:

Yep, understand all that mate, but as you have acknowledged the point is they are all poncing off someone and justifying it……he could have worked his own way through as most have to do but he didn’t !

Ive been watching “Band of Brothers” again on the telly and there was a great line in it that is wisdom I think for people in positions of leadership, one officer is talking to a new officer and he says “Never put yourself in a position where you take from these men” 

Thats called integrity and it’s sadly lacking in politics…..my point is, don’t bother looking for it because you won’t find it, just choose whatever weapon best suits your purpose at the time. 

 

 

As George Galloway puts it .... "Supermarket sweep"

 

[jukel123 9,561]

9 minutes ago, WILF said:

Yep, understand all that mate, but as you have acknowledged the point is they are all poncing off someone and justifying it……he could have worked his own way through as most have to do but he didn’t !

Ive been watching “Band of Brothers” again on the telly and there was a great line in it that is wisdom I think for people in positions of leadership, one officer is talking to a new officer and he says “Never put yourself in a position where you take from these men” 

Thats called integrity and it’s sadly lacking in politics…..my point is, don’t bother looking for it because you won’t find it, just choose whatever weapon best suits your purpose at the time. 

I greatly respected  a foreman I had once.  He had developed an excellent way of managing men. Whenever there was a horrible job to be done. He would say " come on lads. I never ask you to do something I wouldn't do myself". And he was as good as his word. He would do the horrible jobs just to set an example.

Poloticians don't do that.

[WILF 50,835]

8 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

 

 

As George Galloway puts it .... "Supermarket sweep"

 

Strangely enough I have a lot of time for Galloway, don’t get me wrong I fundamentally disagree with most of his views?, ideology ?, world view ?……but some of it I do agree with and I also respect that he seems fairly honest about his beliefs no matter what the cost to himself politically or reputation wise. 
 

I have the same sort of opinion of Corbyn funny enough……he is a disease but he is a fairly honest disease.

[Daniel cain 49,242]

Im with Jukel on this...I believe Trump is dangerous,no different to the rest of the pond weed...

[Bendigo 1,107]

43 minutes ago, WILF said:

Strangely enough I have a lot of time for Galloway, don’t get me wrong I fundamentally disagree with most of his views?, ideology ?, world view ?……but some of it I do agree with and I also respect that he seems fairly honest about his beliefs no matter what the cost to himself politically or reputation wise. 
 

I have the same sort of opinion of Corbyn funny enough……he is a disease but he is a fairly honest disease.

Agreed  

[WILF 50,835]

1 hour ago, Daniel cain said:

Im with Jukel on this...I believe Trump is dangerous,no different to the rest of the pond weed...

He is, but he is the nearest we have to pond weed that is even vaguely on our side.

jmho of course 

[Bendigo 1,107]

14 minutes ago, WILF said:

He is, but he is the nearest we have to pond weed that is even vaguely on our side.

jmho of course 

Again I agree. It's not about being pro or anti trump.....it's that he's our best option. And a lot of the accusations about trump could be laid at the Clintons ten fold and the fact that they aren't again says more about the brain washing of the left than anything trump is guilty of 

[mackay 3,675]

1 hour ago, WILF said:

He is, but he is the nearest we have to pond weed that is even vaguely on our side.

jmho of course 

That's before you factor in the entertainment aspect.

[Daniel cain 49,242]

He's the President of America...he don't run this shithole we all call home ...I don't get why you all think,he's going to turn our fortunes around?

It's time the current crop of politicians/MP's and everyone else in government,is f****d off...and we start from scratch picking the new members from Joe Public....that's the only folks who got our real interests at heart....every cnut else is in it for the money and imaginary power