Charlie Kirk

[scotty12 4,014]

22 minutes ago, WILF said:

The complex calculations involving speed x force x density x velocity x angle x wind speed x bone density x etc etc etc etc !

But that is of course just a pure guess on my part……

As for the autism bit, I’m sure a lot of people who have no personal experience of autism just like they have no personal experience of real death will make a big song and dance about it……I won’t, it won’t make my boy not autistic anymore and neither would I want it to. 

It’s just not something you’d come out with at a funeral. 
I would feel the same way mate doesn’t make you love your kids any less  but also if these professionals in the health care are purposely causing autism in kids the public has the right to know and they should be dealt with accordingly. 
 

[Born Hunter 17,955]

18 hours ago, scotty12 said:

I don’t know f**k all about guns but I do have common sense 

I want to start with I’m suspicious of this statement that the bullet was found given the trauma. Is it verified? However comparing the terminal ballistics of an “aught-six” on steel verses flesh is horribly flawed. My 25-06 will do the same to mild steel, and yet I’ve had 100 yard munty totally eat a head shot like it was a 22. The internal damage was catastrophic but externally it looked like nothing.

The credibility of this theory needs more details. If a frangible bullet was used and the shot directed at the spine then almost anything is plausible. I’ve pulled countless bullet bases out of the skin of deer, passing clean through but being caught by the rear side hide of the animal. Likewise a spinal shot could disintegrate the bullet largely being captured internally but the pressure blows out the back of the neck. More detail is needed but I did not expect the bullet to be contained in his body.

[scotty12 4,014]

20 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

I want to start with I’m suspicious of this statement that the bullet was found given the trauma. Is it verified? However comparing the terminal ballistics of an “aught-six” on steel verses flesh is horribly flawed. My 25-06 will do the same to mild steel, and yet I’ve had 100 yard munty totally eat a head shot like it was a 22. The internal damage was catastrophic but externally it looked like nothing.

The credibility of this theory needs more details. If a frangible bullet was used and the shot directed at the spine then almost anything is plausible. I’ve pulled countless bullet bases out of the skin of deer, passing clean through but being caught by the rear side hide of the animal. Likewise a spinal shot could disintegrate the bullet largely being captured internally but the pressure blows out the back of the neck. More detail is needed but I did not expect the bullet to be contained in his body.

He was still alive at the hospital 

[WataWalloper 3,843]

I heard on YouTube the found the bullet under his skin embedded in his bone 

[iworkwhippets 13,191]

29 minutes ago, WataWalloper said:

I heard on YouTube the found the bullet under his skin embedded in his bone 

Is he dead 

[chartpolski 28,273]

1 hour ago, scotty12 said:

He was still alive at the hospital 

His pal made a speech at the funeral last night, he was in the car with Kirk on the way to the hospital and said he was dead before they reached it. He said he was dead instantly he was hit .

Cheers.

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,375]

1 hour ago, scotty12 said:

He was still alive at the hospital 

Never in a million years years unless he had a trauma team stood next to him 

he was dead when he tipped 

you can’t survive that blood loss or that wound , it’s nigh on impossible 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,375]

35 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

His pal made a speech at the funeral last night, he was in the car with Kirk on the way to the hospital and said he was dead before they reached it. He said he was dead instantly he was hit .

Cheers.

Typed before replying , absolutely agreed 

you can’t pack a neck that isn’t there 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,375]

8 hours ago, scotty12 said:

So a 30-60 bullet lodged inside him he would be dead instant correct ? 

It would spoil your day 

[chartpolski 28,273]

3 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Typed before replying , absolutely agreed 

you can’t pack a neck that isn’t there 

There was another speaker last night at the funeral who was on the Dias when Kirk was shot, he said “Charlie died instantly”.

Another who was in the car said “ his, (Kirk’s ), eyes were open as I held his head but he was staring into eternity, he was dead but we had to try and bring him back”.

Cheers.

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,375]

1 hour ago, scotty12 said:

He was still alive at the hospital 

Thought he was still alive now ? 

[Born Hunter 17,955]

By some clinical or legal definition he might have been ‘alive’. But I very much doubt he was in any way conscious or had a heart beat, aka actually alive. I mean I’m no expert, it’ll be interesting to hear verified details tbh but from what I have seen/read he was every bit as dead as any deer I gralloch.

Edited Monday at 18:13 by Born Hunter

[jukel123 9,538]

Has anybody read, or does anybody think it is credible that Mossad had a hand in his death?

Apparently, among the many things he had said, is that he did not believe Hamas murdered people and took hostages without the knowledge and complicity of Mossad and Netananahu. He also said that he did not believe this was a war between Judeo/ Christianity and Islam but simply a war over territory. He also muted that enough was enough with regard to Palestinian suffering. People like Kirk often say a lot of things to keep all  supporters on board, because he has made conflicting statements about some of the above on different occasions.

Given Kirk's messiah_ like status, Israel had become concerned he would influence American opinion against them so bumped him off.

Remotely plausible?

Personally I think he was murdered by a young man who was a nutjob. Nothing more. But I just thought I would throw the theory into the mix.

Edited Monday at 18:18 by jukel123

[chartpolski 28,273]

3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Has anybody read, or does anybody think it is credible that Mossad had a hand in his death?

Apparently, among the many things he had said, is that he did not believe Hamas murdered people and took hostages without the knowledge and complicity of Mossad and Netananahu. He also said that he did not believe this was a war between Judaeo/ Christianity and Islam but simply a war over territory. He also muted that enough was enough with regard to Palestinian suffering. People like Kirk often say a lot of things to keep all  supporters on board, because he has made conflicting statements about some of the above on different occasions.

Given Kirk's messiah_ like status, Israel had become concerned he would influence American opinion against them so bumped him off.

Remotely plausible?

Personally I think he was murdered by a young man who was a nutjob. Nothing more. But I just thought I would throw the theory into the mix.

Conversely, if Netanyahu/Mossad WERE complicit in the assassination, and found out, American opinion would be so outraged it would have a far more devastating effect on US-Israeli relations.

Could this assassination simply be a case of a “lone nut” ?

I believe the JFK assassination was a conspiracy, in the literal meaning, “two or more people conspiring to commit a crime”, maybe this could be the same, but I don’t go for the “deep state, WEF, Jewish, New World Order type conspiracy” every time someone is murdered, although some could have a bit of credibility.

Cheers.

 

[jukel123 9,538]

If the assassin was black or Muslim or genuinely belonged to a violent radical left organisation, America would have become a tinderbox of  retribution.

Perhaps it will happen in the not too distant future. If it does, hold on to your hat.