Deerhound Crosses

[welshphil 236]

15 minutes ago, breeze said:

Welshphil..... I have often thought and also said on here a couple of times that type of breeding would make a handy dog 

Any pics of pups and parents mate ? 

I will have when I pick her up next week mate so i'll get a post up then 

[breeze 1,382]

A cross that you never see advertised very often at all.                        All the very best of luck with your choice 

[saluki bouy 825]

22/23 inch bitch of my pals very good ferreting dog pleasure to watch not seen her on lamp yet

know litter brother threw stronger and taller 

deerhound greyhound x whippet greyhound 

[welshphil 236]

1 minute ago, breeze said:

A cross that you never see advertised very often at all.                        All the very best of luck with your choice 

Thank you very much Sir, been about 10 years since I had a pup on the ground so I'm ready to embrace the madness lol

[chartpolski 28,059]

7 minutes ago, saluki bouy said:

22/23 inch bitch of my pals very good ferreting dog pleasure to watch not seen her on lamp yet

know litter brother threw stronger and taller 

deerhound greyhound x whippet greyhound 

Seems small for that breeding , mate ?

This bitch was 23”, she was sire first cross beddy/grey; dam deer/grey x whippet grey, but she threw more to the beddy side;

Cheers.

 

[WataWalloper 3,719]

14 minutes ago, welshphil said:

Thank you very much Sir, been about 10 years since I had a pup on the ground so I'm ready to embrace the madness lol

Many of litter left?

[The drover 1,194]

Put a good hard fast lurcher over a deerhound bitch . That'd be the thing to keep the litter sound for work . Imho

[Black neck 17,417]

Someone had a deerhound x saluki used 2 be on here spose 2 bin a right good deer dog

[chartpolski 28,059]

3 minutes ago, The drover said:

Put a good hard fast lurcher over a deerhound bitch . That'd be the thing to keep the litter sound for work . Imho

I’m certainly not disagreeing with you, but when you use a lurcher with a few different breeds in it, over a pure deerhound, you’re never sure what you’ll get, as with that little bitch of mine.

Dont get me wrong, she was a tremendous bitch, one of the best I’ve had, but I’d have liked her to go the size of her litter brother , 25”.

With the first cross deer/grey you’re almost guaranteed what you’ll get, they throw very true to type.

I guess it’s up to what you want and what you’re expecting

Cheers.

 

[The drover 1,194]

2 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I’m certainly not disagreeing with you, but when you use a lurcher with a few different breeds in it, over a pure deerhound, you’re never sure what you’ll get, as with that little bitch of mine.

Dont get me wrong, she was a tremendous bitch, one of the best I’ve had, but I’d have liked her to go the size of her litter brother , 25”.

With the first cross deer/grey you’re almost guaranteed what you’ll get, they throw very true to type.

I guess it’s up to what you want and what you’re expecting

Cheers.

 

Charts . For me . If i had a pure deerhound and wanted to breed for work . I'd be using exactly that . And animal that's very sound around 26" but fast with gears . I'd sacrifice a bit of height to gain durability.  Creating a deerhound x that can take a lotta graft . The ones I've seen tend to be a bit fragile and can't go out a few days in a row . The best ones I've seen , we're deerhound x lurchers.  The dogs in my line were all that way bred 40/50 years ago . And they lacked nothing other than that bit extra steam . Thats were the saluki blood got added.  I'm sure you'd agree with the deerhound crosses of yesteryear being a tougher killing machine.  A true all-rounder  

[WataWalloper 3,719]

10 minutes ago, The drover said:

Charts . For me . If i had a pure deerhound and wanted to breed for work . I'd be using exactly that . And animal that's very sound around 26" but fast with gears . I'd sacrifice a bit of height to gain durability.  Creating a deerhound x that can take a lotta graft . The ones I've seen tend to be a bit fragile and can't go out a few days in a row . The best ones I've seen , we're deerhound x lurchers.  The dogs in my line were all that way bred 40/50 years ago . And they lacked nothing other than that bit extra steam . Thats were the saluki blood got added.  I'm sure you'd agree with the deerhound crosses of yesteryear being a tougher killing machine.  A true all-rounder  

One that type your talking about that we had when I was a wean, grafted along side big chipshop very regular an they took some stick, no world beaters but they were hardy animals haha

Edited 2 hours ago by WataWalloper

[The drover 1,194]

1 minute ago, WataWalloper said:

One that type your talking about that we had when I was a wean, grafted along side big chipshop very regular an they took some stick, no world beaters but they were hardy animals haha

As you know walloper.  I have the old stuff in mine . They were real hard grafters

[chartpolski 28,059]

21 minutes ago, The drover said:

Charts . For me . If i had a pure deerhound and wanted to breed for work . I'd be using exactly that . And animal that's very sound around 26" but fast with gears . I'd sacrifice a bit of height to gain durability.  Creating a deerhound x that can take a lotta graft . The ones I've seen tend to be a bit fragile and can't go out a few days in a row . The best ones I've seen , we're deerhound x lurchers.  The dogs in my line were all that way bred 40/50 years ago . And they lacked nothing other than that bit extra steam . Thats were the saluki blood got added.  I'm sure you'd agree with the deerhound crosses of yesteryear being a tougher killing machine.  A true all-rounder  

I’m not disputing what you say mate , but once you use more than two breeds in a cross, you’ll get more wastage, maybe not the correct word, but the litter won’t be as “level” as a first cross. This probably only concerns the first cross deer/grey, ,they always seem to throw true to type. Other first crosses could throw to either parent, and when you have more than two types in a cross, you can’t be sure what you get. I’ve seen it in first cross collie/greys, the speed of the collie and the brains of the greyhound ! LOL !

The deer/ grey types were extremely popular up here before the saluki came along, but you still had to do your homework, this pic is my old bitch and a bitch which was supposed to be first cross deer/grey, but only made 23”/24” , turns out there was collie back in the breeding !

Of course you may be right and putting a top class lurcher bred over a pure deerhound MAY produce a better type, but, again, you can’t be sure what you might get

Cheers.

 

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[The drover 1,194]

21 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I’m not disputing what you say mate , but once you use more than two breeds in a cross, you’ll get more wastage, maybe not the correct word, but the litter won’t be as “level” as a first cross. This probably only concerns the first cross deer/grey, ,they always seem to throw true to type. Other first crosses could throw to either parent, and when you have more than two types in a cross, you can’t be sure what you get. I’ve seen it in first cross collie/greys, the speed of the collie and the brains of the greyhound ! LOL !

The deer/ grey types were extremely popular up here before the saluki came along, but you still had to do your homework, this pic is my old bitch and a bitch which was supposed to be first cross deer/grey, but only made 23”/24” , turns out there was collie back in the breeding !

Of course you may be right and putting a top class lurcher bred over a pure deerhound MAY produce a better type, but, again, you can’t be sure what you might get

Cheers.

 

I personally think that's where lads went wrong with deerhound crosses.  The auses and yanks had right idea . Jmho pal . Breed for work . Cull the wastage 

[scotty12 3,924]

37 minutes ago, WataWalloper said:

One that type your talking about that we had when I was a wean, grafted along side big chipshop very regular an they took some stick, no world beaters but they were hardy animals haha

That you in the pic with the dog mate ? lol