Labrador X Greyhound First cross

[Blackmag 6,361]

43 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Collie crosses are hit and miss. They vary in size,shape and temperament.

I can't get on with them. They are to quote others" wired to the feckin moon".

They suit some personality types down to the ground. But not others. Marmite for sure.

I'm guessing the lab first cross would be difficult go fall out with,easily trained , natural retrievers , with a wind and water resistant coat.

In theory that is!

A good post jukel I have never heard a lab grey run of it's own accord or have it's own agenda but that said collie xs have stood the test of time must be a reason for it I know some have taken serious numbers of gear and there a pleasure to watch run with top owners I don't think there's been enough labs grey to really compare the two but labs have a off button I tried to put a picture of mine couldn't do it for some reason mine mark as good on rabbits  as any runners I've had or seen weather doesn't bother them they just want to please 

[eastcoast 4,514]

I will never fully understand people adding water to whiskey and expecting a better whiskey. 

[gnipper 6,770]

3 hours ago, jukel123 said:

Collie crosses are hit and miss. They vary in size,shape and temperament.

I can't get on with them. They are to quote others" wired to the feckin moon".

They suit some personality types down to the ground. But not others. Marmite for sure.

I'm guessing the lab first cross would be difficult go fall out with,easily trained , natural retrievers , with a wind and water resistant coat.

In theory that is!

Added to that list have you ever seen a gundog with poor feet?

[shaaark 11,374]

35 minutes ago, gnipper said:

Added to that list have you ever seen a gundog with poor feet?

That'll bring MANY replies.

I've NEVER seen a whippet with poor feet, but if you listen to 90% of people on this site, whippets have some of, or, the worst feet of any running dog!

Absolute BULLSHIT!!

And, I'd just like to add, I've owned 4 kc reg whippets, a pure whippet that wasn't registered, and a few lurchers with a fair amount of whippet in them.

None of them had poor/weak feet.

Edited 21 hours ago by shaaark

[gnipper 6,770]

6 minutes ago, shaaark said:

That'll bring MANY replies.

I've NEVER seen a whippet with poor feet, but if you listen to 90% of people on this site, whippets have some of, or, the worst feet of any running dog!

Absolute BULLSHIT!!

The whippet i had never injured itself once even when the little fecker vanished on me in the dark in places you couldn't be shouting a dog it never hurt itself when I was wishing it bloody would.  I lost her on the lamp once and found the little shit an hour later marking a pallet in the farm.

[jukel123 9,367]

I've had a few whippets and have found they need their nails grinding down a lot. If left they grow too long and bring on injuries. We have a little pet whippet now and it needs its nails grinding every month

 A vet told me greyhounds and whippets need nails clipping regularly and their teeth deteriorate much quicker than other breeds. I've noticed lurchers I've had had shocking teeth once they get older.

[shaaark 11,374]

2 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

I've had a few whippets and have found they need their nails grinding down a lot. If left they grow too long and bring on injuries. We have a little pet whippet now and it needs its nails grinding every month

Yes  clipping their nails back every few weeks is pretty normal, but it doesn't mean they have week/poor feet, which is what most people on this site say.

And at least 95% of those people have NEVER owned, let alone worked  a whippet.

[jukel123 9,367]

1 minute ago, shaaark said:

Yes  clipping their nails back every few weeks is pretty normal, but it doesn't mean they have week/poor feet, which is what most people on this site say.

And at least 95% of those people have NEVER owned, let alone worked  a whippet.

I'm with you, whippets are a very under rated dog. Love em.

Edited 21 hours ago by jukel123

[chartpolski 27,758]

Interesting views on teeth .

Ive never had a whippet with bad teeth, possibly due to their diet and cleaning routine.

My two last lurchers before this one were 12 and 15 and had perfect teeth, plenty bones , deer antler, etc and would let me scrape off any tarter build up.

At a recent show, the judge commented how good my bitches teeth were; I said they are exactly as I would expect a four year old dogs teeth to be and he must have seen some bad teeth to make that comment, he said he’s seen lurchers with terrible teeth.

I imported a Manchester Terrier from Australia and its teeth were in a bad way, so straight to the vet to sort them.

When I was paying the bill, the receptionist asked what I fed him on , I said raw and bone. She asked what “raw” was, I told her and she said ahh , that’s how his teeth were bad !!!  
I said no, it was because he had been fed on those tubes of mush from the supermarket and now he’s on a proper diet he won’t be back again for his teeth !

Cheers.

[mC HULL 15,752]

12 hours ago, shaaark said:

That'll bring MANY replies.

I've NEVER seen a whippet with poor feet, but if you listen to 90% of people on this site, whippets have some of, or, the worst feet of any running dog!

Absolute BULLSHIT!!

And, I'd just like to add, I've owned 4 kc reg whippets, a pure whippet that wasn't registered, and a few lurchers with a fair amount of whippet in them.

None of them had poor/weak feet.

I'd say greys feet are much worse then a whippets 

[Neal 1,929]

7 hours ago, mC HULL said:

I'd say greys feet are much worse then a whippets 

I was told the same thing once by a breeder of racing whippets. She told me that all her pure whippets had excellent feet and the only ones with feet problems were those with some greyhound blood. I had a pup from one of her 3/4 whippet 1/4 greyhounds mated to a collie and she had the worst feet I've ever had on a dog. Forever going lame.

Enjoyable thread.

I almost bought a first cross lab x grey back in the early 90s but when I went to see the litter and asked about the sire (lab) I was told he lived nearby but that the owners didn't know he'd sired the pups. I was still tempted but decided to give them a miss.

I know the thread is titled Labrador x Greyhound, but does anyone know of any other retrievers being used (apart from the golden mentioned above)? I've read one lurcher book where the flatcoat cross was praised: I think it was the Frank Sheardown book. 

[WataWalloper 3,498]

1 minute ago, Neal said:

I was told the same thing once by a breeder of racing whippets. She told me that all her pure whippets had excellent feet and the only ones with feet problems were those with some greyhound blood. I had a pup from one of her 3/4 whippet 1/4 greyhounds mated to a collie and she had the worst feet I've ever had on a dog. Forever going lame.

Enjoyable thread.

I almost bought a first cross lab x grey back in the early 90s but when I went to see the litter and asked about the sire (lab) I was told he lived nearby but that the owners didn't know he'd sired the pups. I was still tempted but decided to give them a miss.

I know the thread is titled Labrador x Greyhound, but does anyone know of any other retrievers being used (apart from the golden mentioned above)? I've read one lurcher book where the flatcoat cross was praised: I think it was the Frank Sheardown book. 

Knew a few flat coated ones when I was a teen, old guy that stayed near us had 2 then had another 1 a few years after, he didn’t lamp or course them tho they was proper poaching dogs used for birds an netting, the thing I remember about them most was how well the guarded, but not sure if that was down to there upbringing as he was a bit of a loner 

[Neal 1,929]

4 minutes ago, WataWalloper said:

Knew a few flat coated ones when I was a teen, old guy that stayed near us had 2 then had another 1 a few years after, he didn’t lamp or course them tho they was proper poaching dogs used for birds an netting, the thing I remember about them most was how well the guarded, but not sure if that was down to there upbringing as he was a bit of a loner 

I expect it was the latter as all the flatcoats I've met have been VERY friendly. I once heard them referred to as the Peter Pan of the dog world. There's a lovely one in my local wood but she's too friendly for me.

I've met several curly coated retrievers recently and they had lovely calm/aloof temperaments. 

[chartpolski 27,758]

5 minutes ago, Neal said:

I was told the same thing once by a breeder of racing whippets. She told me that all her pure whippets had excellent feet and the only ones with feet problems were those with some greyhound blood. I had a pup from one of her 3/4 whippet 1/4 greyhounds mated to a collie and she had the worst feet I've ever had on a dog. Forever going lame.

 

I may be wrong, mate, but my take on this, having a bit of experience of pure and non-ped whippets is that the non-peds suffer more foot problems than the pures is simply down to the fact the are far, far faster and , usually but not always, racier  built, more muscular, for their size, (height).

Its a definite that the non-peds suffer far more gracilis problems as well than the pures, again I put this down to the speed difference.

Just my opinion .

Cheers.

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26 minutes ago, Neal said:

I was told the same thing once by a breeder of racing whippets. She told me that all her pure whippets had excellent feet and the only ones with feet problems were those with some greyhound blood. I had a pup from one of her 3/4 whippet 1/4 greyhounds mated to a collie and she had the worst feet I've ever had on a dog. Forever going lame.

Enjoyable thread.

I almost bought a first cross lab x grey back in the early 90s but when I went to see the litter and asked about the sire (lab) I was told he lived nearby but that the owners didn't know he'd sired the pups. I was still tempted but decided to give them a miss.

I know the thread is titled Labrador x Greyhound, but does anyone know of any other retrievers being used (apart from the golden mentioned above)? I've read one lurcher book where the flatcoat cross was praised: I think it was the Frank Sheardown book. 

Back then I think it was a largely done thing the dog down the road was the other parents. Lurchers used to roam the estate in my nearest town lol