low plains drifter 11,149 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 Heard a dog barking from across the street one day, never heard a bark like it, f****n hell it was standing about 7 foot tall on hind legs a big Kangal in a tiny little path and there was a pup sitting under it, that looked like some sort of Caucasian Shepherd big lump Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,762 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 Some decent advice on here. Where I used to live peoples security systems are like something from Fort Knox…..everyone has got motion detectors and alarm systems and 24 hour CCTV and all sorts of other stuff……now I don’t know if it’s just me, but I find that terrible…..I mean honestly, what part of any of that having to be on normal suburban houses in British towns is in any way “normal” ? How we can normalise that is beyond me ?……f**k living like that, it’s just not f***ing right. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty12 3,729 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 23 minutes ago, WILF said: Some decent advice on here. Where I used to live peoples security systems are like something from Fort Knox…..everyone has got motion detectors and alarm systems and 24 hour CCTV and all sorts of other stuff……now I don’t know if it’s just me, but I find that terrible…..I mean honestly, what part of any of that having to be on normal suburban houses in British towns is in any way “normal” ? How we can normalise that is beyond me ?……f**k living like that, it’s just not f***ing right. lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,522 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 2 minutes ago, scotty12 said: lol That's not just the UK,shoplifting is worldwide,entitlement,poverty,greed but it's far from just a brit problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty12 3,729 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 2 minutes ago, mackem said: That's not just the UK,shoplifting is worldwide,entitlement,poverty,greed but it's far from just a brit problem. I mind back in my day son you could just leave your door wide open and your house would be safe “ said from an old grannies voice” ha ha 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,522 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 Just now, scotty12 said: I mind back in my day son you could just leave your door wide open and your house would be safe “ Everyone says this but I remember my area when I was a kid had a huge car theft and burglary problem plus shoplifting gangs,rose tinted spectacles and halcyon days,lol. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty12 3,729 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 4 minutes ago, mackem said: That's not just the UK,shoplifting is worldwide,entitlement,poverty,greed but it's far from just a brit problem. It’s all down to law and order mate if there’s no punishment then it’s a free for all. The rewards are greater than the risk. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,762 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 8 minutes ago, mackem said: That's not just the UK,shoplifting is worldwide,entitlement,poverty,greed but it's far from just a brit problem. With all due respect, so what ? What relevance has what happens in the rest of world got to a British commuter town or rural village ? what?, should we all be going “Well, if it’s happening in Timbuktu it must be ok then !” Sorry, but I don’t understand that at all. 2 minutes ago, mackem said: Everyone says this but I remember my area when I was a kid had a huge car theft and burglary problem plus shoplifting gangs,rose tinted spectacles and halcyon days,lol. Yes, we had twocing and the odd burglary and the odd bit of street crime, but these things were actually viewed as unusual and terrible, not just part of everyday life…..we didn’t have 3 bed semis with more security than your local Barclays Bank ! The nature of crime has also changed, I don’t remember home invasions as a kid, young family’s tortured by gangs for their play station and car keys. I don’t remember kidnappings, stabbing wasn’t just “another stabbing” and unworthy of even the slightest mention in the news. So maybe people like me do have rose tinted glasses or maybe some of us have normalised that which just isn’t f***ing normal in a 1st world society and especially one of the greatest society’s historically the earth has ever seen. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,522 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 1 minute ago, WILF said: Yes, we had twocing and the odd burglary and the odd bit of street crime, but these things were actually viewed as unusual and terrible, not just part of everyday life The nature of crime has also changed, I don’t remember home invasions as a kid, young family’s tortured by gangs for their play station and car keys. The odd burglary and car theft,??I said my area,it was a huge problem in the north east,certainly not the "Odd burglary" Yes,the nature of crime is evolving and changing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,610 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 It's nothing new, a few of my first hunting mates ended up being wrong un's, guess what their modus operandi was, yep, they used to go lamping and to top off their night they used to go robbing trailers and what not off farms, it then led to one of them breaking in to the farmers house, tying him up and ransacking his home, unfortunately the farmer didn't put a slug in between his eyes, he should have Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,762 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 19 minutes ago, scotty12 said: It’s all down to law and order mate if there’s no punishment then it’s a free for all. The rewards are greater than the risk. I think that’s very naive mate, not digging you out or anything. That school of thought is based on the assumption that these people care about a prison term…..I have to tell you mate, they don’t….they could not give two fucks about getting 2 years or lifed off, not a bit of heed about it. Anyone who think prison is a deterrent to people who have abandoned civilised ideas and just live by base instinct has not, imho, thought it through very well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,522 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 I just checked the crime stats,my old neighbourhood is quite gentrified nowadays after they demolished loads of streets,crime rate has dropped. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 48,476 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 17 minutes ago, mackem said: Everyone says this but I remember my area when I was a kid had a huge car theft and burglary problem plus shoplifting gangs,rose tinted spectacles and halcyon days,lol. Nowhere rougher than where I grew up...I was always taught,you don't take off those with less than you...and we never robbed Our own... then the smack hit the streets....any morals folks once had...went out the window 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,610 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 Just now, mackem said: I just checked the crime stats,my old neighbourhood is quite gentrified nowadays after they demolished loads of streets,crime rate has dropped. It felt the same around here, that it was at it's worst in the 90's, probably ties in with the heroin epidemic. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,522 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 3 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: Nowhere rougher than where I grew up...I was always taught,you don't take off those with less than you...and we never robbed Our own... I was a kid but knew three active burglars in my street,and there was no smack around at that time,they had no morals whatsoever,it was a terrible area for a kid. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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