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At the risk of causing a groan, when you visit the home nations and see how people who are basically the same people effect home nations differently to the indigenous people you can clearly see how a place shapes it’s people character…..you often hear or the hardy Scot’s or the relaxed Irish and it’s true because those lands make you that way…..that’s how you know that when they say “anyone can be British” it’s bollocks.

We are special and unique and yet, as a whole sum of parts, mighty……amazing history of amazing people.

We don’t appreciate ourselves nearly enough 

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A fascinating and multi faceted subject that I, as a guest, have taken a little bit of time to try and learn about. The potato famine was in fact a Europe wide event…..it effected many country’s

People say the British were responsible for  AN GORTA MOR .  it was the elites in Britain that were responsible, in the same the elites today  are responsible for  a lot of the problems in the world .

A million dead and a million had to emigrate…..you don’t forget that in a hurry mate 

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1 minute ago, WILF said:

At the risk of causing a groan, when you visit the home nations and see how people who are basically the same people effect home nations differently to the indigenous people you can clearly see how a place shapes it’s people character…..you often hear or the hardy Scot’s or the relaxed Irish and it’s true because those lands make you that way…..that’s how you know that when they say “anyone can be British” it’s bollocks.

We are special and unique and yet, as a whole sum of parts, mighty……amazing history of amazing people.

We don’t appreciate ourselves nearly enough 

What is British? It's not an ethnicity, it's a national identity.

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43 minutes ago, WILF said:

We prefer to call it liberating pallets from republican captivity pal ! lol 

Joking aside, I’m sure you’ve been seeing that all your life, I doubt it shocks you that much anymore mate. 

It's shocking when they man handle young teens for no reason at all,none,for collecting firewood,there was a video were a young fella just ignored them an walked on with a trolley an pallets an the big fat c**t of a cop came up behind him an swung him on to ground face first,no reason for it at all there not doing anything illegal,just collecting wood.

Anyway that's all I'm saying back on topic

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1 minute ago, Francie, said:

It's shocking when they man handle young teens for no reason at all,none,for collecting firewood,there was a video were a young fella just ignored them an walked on with a trolley an pallets an the big fat c**t of a cop came up behind him an swung him on to ground face first,no reason for it at all there not doing anything illegal,just collecting wood.

Anyway that's all I'm saying back on topic

Injustice everywhere Francie lad, the victims of discrimination?

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16 hours ago, NEWKID said:

Shane knew how to write a lyric 

i think it was Phil chevron that wrote thousands are sailing he was the guitarist for the Pogues.         just scrolled down and seen Aled's post

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On 06/06/2025 at 13:45, tatsblisters said:

I think a few of us wouldn't be on this site and born if not for the famine though i believe a lot would have come to this country in the industrial revolution tbh.

I suppose another way of saying that is many of us would not be English if not for the famine? Me personally, if thinking of my own lineage as a dog's pedigree, obvious know Irish outcross over the years but the foundation stock remained a mystery and all we really had to go on was a surname.  Repeated attempts by a few only managed to get so far back before hitting a wall. The missing part of the jigsaw was discovered almost by accident by a gentleman who helps people of Irish lineage trace their ancestry. On an unrelated search he remembered us when going through records of a workhouse in Glasgow, where my great+ grandmother ended her days. That's why previous searches had had failed, great+ grandfather and grandmother+ had not came directly to England. This piece of information broke through the wall, she came from Ballinamore Co. Leitrim.  Bear with me, there is point to my rambling in the context of the thread.

The of timing of finding this out was is to me serendipitous in that it allowed me to take my dad back to where we had came from before his health began to fail. A lovely lady spent time with us going through church records and we found out more about Patrick and Mary. They had left in 1873 after the worst of it I suppose but this lady said something, and that was that in a way the area has still not fully recovered. I regret not asking for her to elaborate on that. 

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1 hour ago, eastcoast said:

I suppose another way of saying that is many of us would not be English if not for the famine? Me personally, if thinking of my own lineage as a dog's pedigree, obvious know Irish outcross over the years but the foundation stock remained a mystery and all we really had to go on was a surname.  Repeated attempts by a few only managed to get so far back before hitting a wall. The missing part of the jigsaw was discovered almost by accident by a gentleman who helps people of Irish lineage trace their ancestry. On an unrelated search he remembered us when going through records of a workhouse in Glasgow, where my great+ grandmother ended her days. That's why previous searches had had failed, great+ grandfather and grandmother+ had not came directly to England. This piece of information broke through the wall, she came from Ballinamore Co. Leitrim.  Bear with me, there is point to my rambling in the context of the thread.

The of timing of finding this out was is to me serendipitous in that it allowed me to take my dad back to where we had came from before his health began to fail. A lovely lady spent time with us going through church records and we found out more about Patrick and Mary. They had left in 1873 after the worst of it I suppose but this lady said something, and that was that in a way the area has still not fully recovered. I regret not asking for her to elaborate on that. 

You can see what she means herself in the villages and towns mate, there’s a town near me, it’s Main Street as you approach the gates to the manors house and estate is a Georgian masterpiece……but there are empty and derelict places everywhere same as a lot of other towns.

I read the actual effect was in total an almost 50 or 60 % reduction in the population of the country ! 

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On 06/06/2025 at 13:14, Francie, said:

Don't start the English men of on here,if they weren't taking all the resources an shipping them it might not of happened,but they left us way the should spud

But they will deny it but its all recorded on the ships logs etc

f**k predictive text lol

They were providing aid to Ireland until the young irelander rebellion in Tipperary.(where nobody got killed). Ireland had a massive middle class of small farmers who hated the poor - the blame for the genocide lay chiefly at their door. (I had a great grandmother until I was 17- would have heard a lot of stories from her of her grandparents-they  were still living on the road until 1902 after it). I'd make 1 exception - Donegal was definitely genocided (before,during and after the famine)

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On 06/06/2025 at 22:03, Francie, said:

Wilf the young fellas collect pallets for the annual bonfire,assumption of Mary,the ruc torture them an take them of them an Harras them an even arrest some of them,even tho the pallets are given by business.

But the protestants are allowed to have a big bonfire with no bother from the ruc,they've actually took the pallets of the young fellas an put them in back of armoured land rovers an drove over the bridge to waterside an dropped them of,just sectarian scumbags

Bonfires,flegs  and a gay Dutch king- culture

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7 minutes ago, Francie, said:

No mate,it's a Catholic bonfire for the assumption of mary

Meant the other ones. Was in Cyprus around 20 years ago, whole place ground to a halt for the assumption -was nice to see,reminded me of Ireland when I was a child. Probably changed now like everywhere that joins the E.U

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5 minutes ago, tinytiger said:

Meant the other ones. Was in Cyprus around 20 years ago, whole place ground to a halt for the assumption -was nice to see,reminded me of Ireland when I was a child. Probably changed now like everywhere that joins the E.U

One rule for one an all that carryon tiger

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