Francie, 2,809 Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 4 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: You say no one witnessed the speed but do you not think the soviets were tracking the missions with their icbm radar? Spoiler they did. Way too many states, friendly and adversary, have verified the Apollo missions. I genuinely don’t think people like yourself could ever actually believe it happened. You’ll always find an excuse. I'm probably wrong born,but It's just my opinion at the end of the day,as you say at that speed it's one revolution of the earths circumference in one hour,just seems far fetched to me 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,809 Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 1 minute ago, Pardus said: Ok, so it's just NASA who you don't trust? What scandals in the past have made you so suspicious of them? There stupid videos on YouTube with there rock hard hair an visible wires,some things floating an other things not Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,610 Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 Just now, Francie, said: There stupid videos on YouTube with there rock hard hair an visible wires,some things floating an other things not Try another mate, do you think if it was all a big hoax that they wouldn't have the intelligence to make sure each video release is clear of any tells? Or is it a secret message to us all by disgruntled employees? Lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,610 Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 8 minutes ago, Francie, said: I'm probably wrong born,but It's just my opinion at the end of the day,as you say at that speed it's one revolution of the earths circumference in one hour,just seems far fetched to me It seems far fetched that we can create bionic limbs that move through our thoughts and nerve signals, that just blows your mind doesn't it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 13,158 Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 39 minutes ago, Francie, said: There stupid videos on YouTube with there rock hard hair an visible wires,some things floating an other things not That reminds me Francie owd lad , how's ya bonce sin using castor oil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 11,400 Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 1 hour ago, Francie, said: I'm sure it has mate Because no one on earth has seen it happen,only the astronauts,nothing on earth has gone that speed,were depending on them being truthful,an I just don't trust them. How can we verify is 100 percent is true? Yet you believe that jesus fed 5000 people with two loaves of bread and five fish?! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,876 Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 2 hours ago, Francie, said: I'm sure it has mate Because no one on earth has seen it happen,only the astronauts,nothing on earth has gone that speed,were depending on them being truthful,an I just don't trust them. How can we verify is 100 percent is true? Francie , mate , Voyager travels at 380,000 mph, Saturn V travelled at 25,000mph , the ISS travels at 17500 mph, do you think they are all hoax’s ? You don’t even need a telescope to see the ISS at times ! Its not up to us to prove to you , we know it’s true because it’s actually happening. If you don’t believe it then you need to prove it by publishing peer reviewed data, not something from a conspiracy site. You don’t believe anything can go past earths atmosphere but the UK with Europe, the US , Russia, China, Japan , India have all done it. Is it some world wide conspiracy ? If it is WHY, who are they fooling and for what ? If space travel conflicts with your religious beliefs, I’ll ask why couldn’t an omnipotent god , give his greatest creation, mankind, the knowledge and ability to go into space ? Cheers. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,809 Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 1 hour ago, chartpolski said: Francie , mate , Voyager travels at 380,000 mph, Saturn V travelled at 25,000mph , the ISS travels at 17500 mph, do you think they are all hoax’s ? You don’t even need a telescope to see the ISS at times ! Its not up to us to prove to you , we know it’s true because it’s actually happening. If you don’t believe it then you need to prove it by publishing peer reviewed data, not something from a conspiracy site. You don’t believe anything can go past earths atmosphere but the UK with Europe, the US , Russia, China, Japan , India have all done it. Is it some world wide conspiracy ? If it is WHY, who are they fooling and for what ? If space travel conflicts with your religious beliefs, I’ll ask why couldn’t an omnipotent god , give his greatest creation, mankind, the knowledge and ability to go into space ? Cheers. No it doesn't conflict with my beliefs mate,I'm just struggling to understand how a craft could withstand that speed an not disintegrate. If you look at all these videos of China an India landing on moon it don't look convincing looks like cgi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,809 Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 2 hours ago, shaaark said: Yet you believe that jesus fed 5000 people with two loaves of bread and five fish?! Yes that's supernatural,I know most don't beleive that but that's ok mate. I'd love to see footage of a rocket leaving the atmosphere,would be some sight,travelling at 25,000 mph,that would be astounding to see Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 2 minutes ago, Francie, said: Yes that's supernatural,I know most don't beleive that but that's ok mate. I'd love to see footage of a rocket leaving the atmosphere,would be some sight,travelling at 25,000 mph,that would be astounding to see It doesn’t reach that speed in the atmosphere. Stage 2 tops out at about 15k mph at over 100 miles altitude. Outer space is classed as 62 miles altitude. This would generally be considered having left the earths atmosphere. Speed at that altitude is probably around 10k mph. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 31,517 Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 1 hour ago, chartpolski said: Francie , mate , Voyager travels at 380,000 mph, Saturn V travelled at 25,000mph , the ISS travels at 17500 mph, do you think they are all hoax’s ? You don’t even need a telescope to see the ISS at times ! Its not up to us to prove to you , we know it’s true because it’s actually happening. If you don’t believe it then you need to prove it by publishing peer reviewed data, not something from a conspiracy site. You don’t believe anything can go past earths atmosphere but the UK with Europe, the US , Russia, China, Japan , India have all done it. Is it some world wide conspiracy ? If it is WHY, who are they fooling and for what ? If space travel conflicts with your religious beliefs, I’ll ask why couldn’t an omnipotent god , give his greatest creation, mankind, the knowledge and ability to go into space ? Cheers. See it’s things like that statement the iss is traveling at 175000 mph if that were true it should be a flash of light wizzing by but I can watch it with my naked eye and it takes a while to go by I’m not pissing on anyone’s chips but it’s things like that that baffle a simpleton like me and many others I would imaging 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,610 Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 12 minutes ago, Greyman said: See it’s things like that statement the iss is traveling at 175000 mph if that were true it should be a flash of light wizzing by but I can watch it with my naked eye and it takes a while to go by I’m not pissing on anyone’s chips but it’s things like that that baffle a simpleton like me and many others I would imaging Well no it wouldn't would it, remember the time when comets take days or weeks to pass out of view to the naked eye, do you think they are traveling at a snails pace? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,610 Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 Watch a passenger plane pass over head from the ground, doesn't look that fast, 500mph, load of rubbish?!? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Franks dad 2,027 Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 5 hours ago, chartpolski said: Isn’t it amazing that the Wright brothers first flew in 1903, for 20 seconds, and 70 years later an aircraft capable of carrying 400 people flew halfway round the world and man had walked on the moon ! Cheers. Almost too amazing to be true for some people charts …. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,876 Posted June 6 Report Share Posted June 6 9 minutes ago, Greyman said: See it’s things like that statement the iss is traveling at 175000 mph if that were true it should be a flash of light wizzing by but I can watch it with my naked eye and it takes a while to go by I’m not pissing on anyone’s chips but it’s things like that that baffle a simpleton like me and many others I would imaging Mate , I really don’t want to go round in circles, and I can respect your scepticism, but if the ISS passes above the earth at a certain point and does one circumnavigation of the earth and gets back to that point , we know the circumference of the earth, the height of the ISS and the time it has taken so the maths to work out its speed isn’t to difficult. The earth orbits the sun at around 67,000 mph , but does it look or feel like that ? Ive no need to try and convince anyone of anything but if you sail your boat to a certain point and know the distance you’ve travelled and how long it’s taken , it’s simple to work out how many miles an hour you’ve done. Same with the ISS. Cheers. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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