THE STIFFMEISTER 15,620 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Wolfdog91 said: I like the guy ok I guess, the cult of personality he's getting is weird as f**k though....then again I don't understand people who basically worship political figures and act like they have no faults. He's also gotten one of the most successful smear campaigns don't to him. Most people who hate him don't even know exactly why they do they just know trump bad trump racist.Ive criticized the guys alot but the people who just can't stand him and talk shit without being able to show anything annoy the absolute living f**k out of me. You figure someone who is such a racist you be able to just bull somthing up in them seconds of him using the hard R or beating black people or something. .....yeah no. Ask someone , hay so what exactly has trump don't that racist and it's whole bunch of run around answers.....meanwhile when I show pole joe Bidens " if you don't vote for me ya ain't black " or his cornpop story , all of which where on national TV eveyone legit says they never seen that and WTF ?! And yeah I feel like we need to stop babysitting NATO but to a large degree it is a power move . "Act right and make the right decision or my bases and armored divisions in your country go poof" not to mention there's a lot of infrastructure built around US military bases in alot of countries. Those go and you have a lot of very upset people without employment. As far as the UK. Going off on their own for their own military ......egh .....the people talking the loudest about this have shown not to have the best grasp on the military in general as a whole so.... Yeah.... Just looking at British military doctrine it's changed a lot y'all's force projection capabilities are waaaaay less then they used to be , and nowadays force projection is a major deal, military spawned and industrial complex would have to get a major bump..... Idk about y'all ship building anymore so I can't speak on that but being an island nation seems like y'all would have to rebuild your navy again, least a few aircraft carriers..... Also a lot of what it seems strengthened the British military was being able to pull recourses from all the colony it had all over and that's not really too much of a thing now ..at least not as good as it was so unless that changes honestly it would just be most sensible to probably just leave NATO and stay with us and maybe the Canadians and Aussies. It's been proven time and again we work well together. Probably will have to end up catching a ride with us regardless for a good long while. That all being said again historically if you leave the Europeans alone by themselves unsupervised for too long... Problem with a lot of this shit is power vacuums. On a side note I think I'd actually like to keep the French on with us if we left NATO because those guys really know a thing or two about lighting war's. But we're in a age of proxy wars ,info war and the like so if you want stuff to work like WWll your just plain shit out of luck You really are a silly yank c**t aren’t ya ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfdog91 6,874 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: You really are a silly yank c**t aren’t ya ? Gonna elaborate or is it going to be the usual? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,620 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Just now, Wolfdog91 said: Gonna elaborate or is it going to be the usual? Leave Europeans un supervised ? force protection ? You ve got some f***ing Back wheels like. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfdog91 6,874 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 25 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Leave Europeans un supervised ? force protection ? You ve got some f***ing Back wheels like. How many wars have been fought in Europe over the last 500 odd years ? I Mean this is just in the 1800's There a reason why it used to be a common saying that if you wanted to get right make a new way for Europeans to kill each other more effectively That being said I'm speaking of main land Europe Germany and all them not the UK...y'all are you own little deal And I ment force projection, or power projection, how ever you'd prefer to word it.You know the ability to put your people where you need them around the world....you know one of the really big factors in modern day militaries who perform on a global scale. I mean hell that's what made y'all such a super power for so long . Snap a finger and the king could have a a force somewhere around the globe quicker then anyone else. That's how the US is now. Desert storm being a prime example Which honestly your gonna need to for the most part at one time or another . Now if you are going to have to go anywhere and strictly stay on your island as a military then yeah who cares but......yeahhh unless y'all are about to revamp and completely turn away from what y'all have been doing for the last ...what 400years? And since yall really really don't seem like the kind of people to change welp.....your goin to need to really do some work. And that's going to involve a lot of new infrastructure, material refinement and obtainment ect. Could it be done ? Definitely would it take a lot ? Yes 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,620 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 What have I just read ??? 6 minutes ago, Wolfdog91 said: How many wars have been fought in Europe over the last 500 odd years ? I Mean this is just in the 1800's There a reason why it used to be a common saying that if you wanted to get right make a new way for Europeans to kill each other more effectively That being said I'm speaking of main land Europe Germany and all them not the UK...y'all are you own little deal And I ment force projection, or power projection, how ever you'd prefer to word it.You know the ability to put your people where you need them around the world....you know one of the really big factors in modern day militaries who perform on a global scale. I mean hell that's what made y'all such a super power for so long . Snap a finger and the king could have a a force somewhere around the globe quicker then anyone else. That's how the US is now. Desert storm being a prime example Which honestly your gonna need to for the most part at one time or another . Now if you are going to have to go anywhere and strictly stay on your island as a military then yeah who cares but......yeahhh unless y'all are about to revamp and completely turn away from what y'all have been doing for the last ...what 400years? And since yall really really don't seem like the kind of people to change welp.....your goin to need to really do some work. And that's going to involve a lot of new infrastructure, material refinement and obtainment ect. Could it be done ? Definitely would it take a lot ? Yes You do realise that we are a poxy little island approximately 40 times less the size of the us ? all the things you are stating are baffling when you consider we have not the land space , infrastructure, or need to assimilate all those assets . we can’t build to cover all eventualities, only the main ones But strangely enough we don’t especially need them anyway , this poxy little island is a product of all those wars you have listed , they have conditioned our forces Into one of military excellence . There’s a reason arab princes send their sons to sandhurst . We are the world leaders in combat. to understate that is criminal on your behalf , we may on paper be a fraction of your size but the X factor of our forces puts us firmly on the global stage as a super power. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,140 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 4 hours ago, tank34 said: I don't think he is part of the elites , been told from friend she bang on most of time , told me when trump get back in power, Russia going to storm Ukraine an take over , she says Ukraine the head of the snake Zelensky was in davos cosying up with blackrock an co talking about russian agression,if that happens tank trump will have gone back on his word,he said he will end it,an if putin goes ahead an does storm then will trump defend ukraine? But i can see were there going with this trump an putin against ze new world order lol its not going to end well. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfdog91 6,874 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 32 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: What have I just read ??? You do realise that we are a poxy little island approximately 40 times less the size of the us ? all the things you are stating are baffling when you consider we have not the land space , infrastructure, or need to assimilate all those assets . we can’t build to cover all eventualities, only the main ones But strangely enough we don’t especially need them anyway , this poxy little island is a product of all those wars you have listed , they have conditioned our forces Into one of military excellence . There’s a reason arab princes send their sons to sandhurst . We are the world leaders in combat. to understate that is criminal on your behalf , we may on paper be a fraction of your size but the X factor of our forces puts us firmly on the global stage as a super power. .....you legit basically just reiterated what I was saying. People talking about how y'all should just go off on your own and do your own thing, I'm pointing out how that probably wouldn't not be the best thing to do at all for the reasons I posted. That is for the people typing to say y'all can do what we can apples to apples hence why you don't need us or what have you. Of course you guys can still be a global superpower but not on the same apples to apples playing field completely buy yourself that should be common sense to anyone with two working brain cells Again as I said if your just going to be a closed off little whatever not go anywhere or really worry about having to put troops out around the world , that's a different deal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tank34 2,340 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 17 minutes ago, Francie, said: Zelensky was in davos cosying up with blackrock an co talking about russian agression,if that happens tank trump will have gone back on his word,he said he will end it,an if putin goes ahead an does storm then will trump defend ukraine? But i can see were there going with this trump an putin against ze new world order lol its not going to end well. I do think if trump gets back in power the shit going to hit the fan , my friend said when trump back in Putin will take over Ukraine an the war will be over as Putin won , could be what trump means by he will end the war ?? Time will tell francie 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,720 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Problem is lads on hand to hand, close quarter combat the british and irish where top of the game, but they have bombs these days that could wipe out good old ulster (where us double hard ba$tards come from) in 1 drop, the thing the british have is the tech brains, and a big nephew across the pond where a lot of their ancestors came from these isles, but sure as shite stinks, i would not lift 1 finger to fight for the royals, charles single handedly will be the ruination of that family with his woke, greenpeace policies and the raping of the tax payer, hes a C unt that is letting this UK be taken over and yet not 1 step in for its denfese 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,140 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 5 hours ago, tank34 said: I do think if trump gets back in power the shit going to hit the fan , my friend said when trump back in Putin will take over Ukraine an the war will be over as Putin won , could be what trump means by he will end the war ?? Time will tell francie If putin took ukraine an trump was in charge were would that leave the nwo crew tank thats a head scratcher lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,140 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 3 hours ago, Lenmcharristar said: Problem is lads on hand to hand, close quarter combat the british and irish where top of the game, but they have bombs these days that could wipe out good old ulster (where us double hard ba$tards come from) in 1 drop, the thing the british have is the tech brains, and a big nephew across the pond where a lot of their ancestors came from these isles, but sure as shite stinks, i would not lift 1 finger to fight for the royals, charles single handedly will be the ruination of that family with his woke, greenpeace policies and the raping of the tax payer, hes a C unt that is letting this UK be taken over and yet not 1 step in for its denfese Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tank34 2,340 Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Francie, said: If putin took ukraine an trump was in charge were would that leave the nwo crew tank thats a head scratcher lol She say Ukraine is the head of the snake for the elites , Putin going to cut the head off the snake , an the new world order will fall with trumps help , trump an Putin both said there going to drain the swop , pedo island flight log will come out an lots more will fall , most stuff she says has come true 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,140 Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 20 minutes ago, tank34 said: She say Ukraine is the head of the snake for the elites , Putin going to cut the head off the snake , an the new world order will fall with trumps help , trump an Putin both said there going to drain the swop , pedo island flight log will come out an lots more will fall , most stuff she says has come true They cant hide there evil deeds no longer,trump needs to watch his back,but im pretty sure he knows this tank lol 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiff 36 Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 On 20/01/2024 at 04:28, chartpolski said: The US Marines love the Harrier. They can set up a metal mesh take off/landing pad in minutes for carrier based Harriers. The Harrier, in my mind, was ahead of its time, I don’t know why we don’t still use them. Cheers. My father was an aeronautical engineer among other things and was involved in the design and development of the Harrier (the VOLT portion), I have one of the presentation books around here somewhere. Kind of cool to hear that it is well remembered by some! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tank34 2,340 Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 6 hours ago, Francie, said: They cant hide there evil deeds no longer,trump needs to watch his back,but im pretty sure he knows this tank lol Some say trumps part of the elites?? But there trying there best to sink trump so he don't get back in power 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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