Tatsblisters

[Chid 6,780]

26 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said:

Didn't labour close more mines than the Tories? Or did I just make that up?

Labour closed over double the amount of cole mines in 8 yrs than Thatcher did in her 11 yrs 

[Bakerboy 4,740]

1 hour ago, hambone said:

Feel I'm pissing into the wind here but it was Scargill's miners and they're "were all right" attitude that fkd the union movement not the Tories

Scargill had a mandate to strike without voting for it as it had already been voted on by NUM members, dirty scummy scabby bast@rds from the Notts area broke away from the NUM, started a break away union the UDM and worked thru the strike, Scargill was far far from perfect but he was 100% right about the pit closures, one of the happiest days of my life when they closed the Notts pits

[mel b 3,539]

From the feelings displayed on this thread , it's very clear to see how strongly people felt , and still feel all these years later. 

My late father ( ex steel worker) , supported miners every step of the way , but he didn't have a good word to say about Arthur Scargill .

I also have an old mate ( retired senior detective) , that policed the picket lines as a younger constable . He always said that the majority of the police officers also supported the miners.

[tatsblisters 10,934]

7 hours ago, Chid said:

Labour closed over double the amount of cole mines in 8 yrs than Thatcher did in her 11 yrs 

Unworkable and worked out pits that a lot were dangerous though anyone that wanted to work in the industry job's were still available though it ment a lot of miners upping sticks and moving to different parts of the country. The pit I worked at a lot of Scottish lad's moved to the pit village and settled in S.Yorks. 

[tatsblisters 10,934]

9 hours ago, jukel123 said:

There's a Durham Miners Gala every year in July. It's a celebration of working class  community,solidarity and internationalism. 200000 people generally attend. All the old pit villages still parade their banners. Miners who stuck it out and miners who were beaten up and fitted up by the police at Orgreave are feted as heroes. I find it really moving. But I know a lot on here will laugh and sneer at that.

 

Never been mate they reckon it's a good day out when I worked at the pit they used to put coaches on for lads and their families for this event that was just a glorious piss up for some of the lad's. I remember two mates coming back from the event sporting black eyes as they had ended up in a club near the event and jumped on stage and did a moonie that the regulars didn't find funny. Lol 

[hambone 950]

22 hours ago, Bakerboy said:

Scargill had a mandate to strike without voting for it as it had already been voted on by NUM members, dirty scummy scabby bast@rds from the Notts area broke away from the NUM, started a break away union the UDM and worked thru the strike, Scargill was far far from perfect but he was 100% right about the pit closures, one of the happiest days of my life when they closed the Notts pits

I was referring to the NUM who voted not to support the steelworkers when they went out, before the miners in turn got bent over

[tatsblisters 10,934]

22 hours ago, hambone said:

I was referring to the NUM who voted not to support the steelworkers when they went out, before the miners in turn got bent over

The steel worker's strike was about more money though like us I bet you got no support from the TUC . It's all in the past now with no pits left in the UK. In my opinion us loosing the strike was all part of the plan for us the working class to be more subservient to foreign investors wishing to open factory's and warehouses in the UK. 

[hambone 950]

7 minutes ago, tatsblisters said:

The steel worker's strike was about more money though like us I bet you got no support from the TUC . It's all in the past now with no pits left in the UK. In my opinion us loosing the strike was all part of the plan for us the working class to be more subservient to foreign investors wishing to open factory's and warehouses in the UK. 

It was about redundancies and stupidly pay negotiations were lumped in with it.  Ian McGregor was brought in by Thatcher to slimline the steel industry.

Agree about the foreign investors bit though

Edited June 11, 2023 by hambone

[tatsblisters 10,934]

12 hours ago, hambone said:

It was about redundancies and stupidly pay negotiations were lumped in with it.  Ian McGregor was brought in by Thatcher to slimline the steel industry.

Agree about the foreign investors bit though

We all lost at the end of the day even though the pits and the steel works were not the best job's in the world considering the health implications that it's workforce could suffer they were secure job's with decent pensions when it come to retirement all now gone and those who have never done a day's graft in their lives telling us we have to work longer before we can access the meagre state pension imo we have gone backwards not forwards. 

[steve t 1,196]

@DIDO.1 did you buy that collecting tin?

[FLATTOP 5,134]

@DIDO.1 I must admit as simple as it is I would have probably bought that tin as well little bit of history there.

[DIDO.1 22,857]

1 hour ago, steve t said:

@DIDO.1 did you buy that collecting tin?

Yeah. £20

[tatsblisters 10,934]

3 hours ago, DIDO.1 said:

Yeah. £20

I have heard the pit Deputy sticks fetch a good price I have one myself but wouldn't part with it it must be 60 years old. 

[DIDO.1 22,857]

1 hour ago, tatsblisters said:

I have heard the pit Deputy sticks fetch a good price I have one myself but wouldn't part with it it must be 60 years old. 

What's one of them?

[tatsblisters 10,934]

46 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said:

What's one of them?

It's a walking stick that colliery management used to carry about a yard long with an indent in the top that an oil lamp that tested for gas could be hooked on to to test for gas in cavities. Some officials used them to prod sleeping button lads.lol