APBT x wheaten

[hoosier 58]

There’s a guy here in the states using a wheaten as a catchdog. Bigger the better for a catchdog up to a point. Although smaller catchdogs can work as the bay dogs usually pile on once the catchdog latches on. 

[Hannibal3 157]

6 hours ago, hoosier said:

There’s a guy here in the states using a wheaten as a catchdog. Bigger the better for a catchdog up to a point. Although smaller catchdogs can work as the bay dogs usually pile on once the catchdog latches on. 

Yes that’s right . His dogs sire is my pups grandsire. 
my friend who bred mine sent the one to the states a couple of years back. 

[Hannibal3 157]

On 22/04/2023 at 01:36, Aussie Whip said:

Nice dog and game but too small for pigs by themselves. I've seen a 100kg boar drag five pig dogs including a pit down a hill. You might catch smaller pigs but a big boar will just run the dog into a tree and smash him eventually.

That’s a fair point mate. In your experience what size would the ideal catch dog be? Too heavy and not got the wind and too light get smashed as you say 

[Hannibal3 157]

Pups coming along well . Fitted in well with the other dogs and responding well to her training . Just been concentrating on livestock training and environmental exposure. Not got any complaints about her so far , finding her much the same as any other dog I’ve had . Probably change as she matures but a very easy keeper so far 

[Jackmo 53]

Looking great 

Edited May 8, 2023 by Jackmo

[WEDGEY 749]

34 minutes ago, Hannibal3 said:

Pups coming along well . Fitted in well with the other dogs and responding well to her training . Just been concentrating on livestock training and environmental exposure. Not got any complaints about her so far , finding her much the same as any other dog I’ve had . Probably change as she matures but a very easy keeper so far 

Did you say that was a wheaten pit cross ?? Why would anyone do that  baffles me.. all the best with her anyhow 

[gnasher16 29,664]

What line/s was the pit side just out of curiosity ?

[jigsaw 11,809]

27 minutes ago, WEDGEY said:

Did you say that was a wheaten pit cross ?? Why would anyone do that  baffles me.. all the best with her anyhow 

Could you expand on your thoughts on the matter,just out of interest,what do you find baffling and why,...could make very interesting reading

[gnasher16 29,664]

24 minutes ago, jigsaw said:

Could you expand on your thoughts on the matter,just out of interest,what do you find baffling and why,...could make very interesting reading

ooooh am dying to jump in here but will be a gent and leave it to the chap its directed at 

[WEDGEY 749]

2 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

ooooh am dying to jump in here but will be a gent and leave it to the chap its directed at 

 gnasher over to you im not getting into it with jigsaw he knows I'm right 

[gnasher16 29,664]

10 minutes ago, WEDGEY said:

 gnasher over to you im not getting into it with jigsaw he knows I'm right 

In fairness mine are probably for very different reasons and you lads are far more dedicated " hunters " if you like than i ever will be so not for me to say whats right and wrong really.....im just a purist of the apbt as a breed and cannot see anything another dog breed could possibly add in a situation of violence that wont compromise the qualities the breed is known for.

[Aussie Whip 3,827]

3 hours ago, Hannibal3 said:

That’s a fair point mate. In your experience what size would the ideal catch dog be? Too heavy and not got the wind and too light get smashed as you say 

Yeah I wasn't taking anything away from your bitch, she's a beautiful terrier and I'd like a dog like her. My mrs used to catch pigs for export as a job. She used big dogs, mastiff/dane/English bull crosses mainly and they caught plenty. The trend now is for the lighter built Bullarabs, still big but leaner, usually a mix of English bull, pointer and greyhound usually around 35 to 40kg. Also English bull/Oz staghounds are popular. You can use anything on pigs, I used to have to watch the whippets when I was rabbiting and pigs about but the small dogs get knocked around and when you are catching pigs every day you can't afford the dogs to be out of action.

[Setenta 117]

2 hours ago, jigsaw said:

Could you expand on your thoughts on the matter,just out of interest,what do you find baffling and why,...could make very interesting reading

It’s a pointless cross. Two breeds bred together solely to line the owners pockets. This is the same fella who bred his male wheaten to a canary mastiff cross. 

[Hannibal3 157]

9 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

What line/s was the pit side just out of curiosity ?

The pit dam was out of a dog called Ch Jihad . A very good dog , I will get Her pedigree and send it to you

[Hannibal3 157]

6 hours ago, Setenta said:

It’s a pointless cross. Two breeds bred together solely to line the owners pockets. This is the same fella who bred his male wheaten to a canary mastiff cross. 

Do you know the fella who bred them mate ? If you did I’m quite sure you wouldn’t say it was about money. 
ive had 4 dogs from him now over the past few years and no money has ever changed hands . He had 9 pups from this litter and as far as I’m aware he gifted 6 out and sold 3 so I’m not sure how he is lining his pockets. If he was just churning out pups for money I don’t think he would be messing about with wheatens . They are hardly a money spinner, he would be breeding xl bullies or Merle things