Energy Prices

[chartpolski 27,897]

38 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

You need to ring your supplier regular as they will take whatever they can get away with over and above your usage .Ring them and ask them to justify the past months payment and you’ll find they will adjust your monthly payment to suit the usage ,not what they perceive it to be .I reduced our payment 65 notes this month and set the bill at that until further notice .

Do not think you are doing yourself a favour by being in massive credit by paying over the odds as they are happy to take money you arnt spending .Better in your bank than theirs .

I'm over £1,000 in credit with my energy supplier. They pay interest on a positive balance which compares with the bank.

I have a smart meter and it constantly updates the amount I need to pay by direct debit to achieve a break even point.

At the moment, I pay £184 per month, but they estimate £99 per month to break even

I can reduce or increase my payments instantly on their app, I can also ask for any credit to be put back into my bank.

Im leaving it as it is, because I'm expecting another rise in the "cap" in April, so I'd like to be ahead of the curve.

What immensely pisses me of though, is the fact we have enough oil, gas and coal in and around the UK to not only be self sufficient, but to also be net exporters.

Why do ALL the political parties, Tory, Labour, Liberal, SNP , Greens, refuse to exploit these reserves, and race headlong for "net zero" , a policy that will ruin the UK, when our contribution to global co2 is negligible and even if we shut down completely, would be overtaken by the pollution that's increasing exponentially by the likes of China, India, Brazil within days ?

Cheers.

[jukel123 9,416]

Just now, paulus said:

Its called universal credit now and it does just that, it also allows them to keep more of the money they earn. However none of that is causing this issue and if you stopped all benefit payments to everybody tomorrow even those in work and claiming benefits of which there are far. far more than those unemployed then you would still not solve the issue indeed you would make it worse, The issues are a wage that has been artificially held down by the use of immigration. The lack of training of our own workers in favour of qualified immigrant workers causing a skills shortage now, The Privatisation of our fuel, water and oil. not to mention the others. Greed will destroy Humanity.  

Agreed, everything has  been sold off .

All workers in Belgium get an annual pay rise based on inflation. No ifs, no buts. No need to strike. Why can't we do that?

Edited December 26, 2022 by jukel123

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,048]

20 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

No point in me pointing out the injustice of the situation and how public servants : military, health professionals, teachers, firemen, are on the bones of their arses and rationing heating and so on. People assume you are a Marxist and wannabe class warrior. It's nothing to do with that.

The tories need to get real, they've taken the piss for too long. People need a pay rise. The ultra rich and the multi nationals need to pay for it out of taxation. Wealth needs to be taxed. End of. Sunak and Co are just sitting on their hands doing f**k all about the situation. How they expect to win the next election is beyond me. They are incredibly incompetent.

There’s lads overseas from the military on 6 month operations who are getting 100 a month extra for doing so . 
 

in times gone past , they would be sitting in a nice 4k bonus on completion of that ,that’s no more .
 

 in reality , when lads are away they spend more …so soldiers are going away for 6 months and coming back worse off than they would be if they stayed at home. 

remember that for the nhs when they are after 20% increase wage support 

[paulus 26]

2 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

There’s lads overseas from the military on 6 month operations who are getting 100 a month extra for doing so . 
 

in times gone past , they would be sitting in a nice 4k bonus on completion of that ,that’s no more .
 

 in reality , when lads are away they spend more …so soldiers are going away for 6 months and coming back worse off than they would be if they stayed at home. 

remember that for the nhs when they are after 20% increase wage support 

I was getting more than 100 a month in the 1980`s, I always wondered why the forces pay should not be in line with Policemen and firemen but without the volleyball. 

[jukel123 9,416]

Just now, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

There’s lads overseas from the military on 6 month operations who are getting 100 a month extra for doing so . 
 

in times gone past , they would be sitting in a nice 4k bonus on completion of that ,that’s no more .
 

 in reality , when lads are away they spend more …so soldiers are going away for 6 months and coming back worse off than they would be if they stayed at home. 

remember that for the nhs when they are after 20% increase wage support 

Remember that next time there's a war. Charlie boy will be on the telly appealing to your sense of patriotism and calling you all heroes and to go off and protect his lands and that of his mates.Meanwhile you can't afford to heat your homes. No use criticising the nurses for demanding a pay rise. That's just cheap divide and conquer. Not worthy of you.

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,048]

1 minute ago, paulus said:

I was getting more than 100 a month in the 1980`s, I always wondered why the forces pay should not be in line with Policemen and firemen but without the volleyball. 
 

it’s all rated at nights out of bed type accumulation of days , obviously I have a few now for what’s termed Lsa to the point where going away is looked at as being a banker . 

but the loa payments and tour  bonuses are a thing of the past , the lads away straight out of the wrapper are at the bottom of that ladder . 
 

in the Afghan era , if you were sensible , you could be banking up to 20k above your pay for when your home again . It’s all about your needs , outgoings I suppose 

 

 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,048]

4 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Remember that next time there's a war. Charlie boy will be on the telly appealing to your sense of patriotism and calling you all heroes and to go off and protect his lands and that of his mates.Meanwhile you can't afford to heat your homes. No use criticising the nurses for demanding a pay rise. That's just cheap divide and conquer. Not worthy of you.

You’re also not grasping that , for most , soldiering isn’t about the money . 
 

I don’t know your life experience etc but the army is the ultimate place for leaving your regrets at the door , I’ve never attended a leaving doo where lads say “ I wish I’d never joined or that was a waste of two decades , I hate you all “ 

it’s just different to anything you think it is . 

[jukel123 9,416]

Just now, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

You’re also not grasping that , for most , soldiering isn’t about the money . 
 

I don’t know your life experience etc but the army is the ultimate place for leaving your regrets at the door , I’ve never attended a leaving doo where lads say “ I wish I’d never joined or that was a waste of two decades , I hate you all “ 

it’s just different to anything you think it is . 

Yes but if you are a family man you need to be able to pay your bills without rationing your heating etc. If you ask somebody to put their life on the line you should at least pay them appropriately. 

We've been through all this before. In the first world war the country had difficulty recruiting enough fit working class men. Men were riddled with disease and poor nutrition.

In the second world war men came home and said f**k you Churchill. We've put out our lives on the line. We want decent houses and jobs. I can still remember the optimism of the fifties. The rebuilding, the year on year improvement in family spending power. 

It's all gone to shit now. Not by accident but by mismanagement and greed.

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,048]

7 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Yes but if you are a family man you need to be able to pay your bills without rationing your heating etc. If you ask somebody to put their life on the line you should at least pay them appropriately. 

We've been through all this before. In the first world war the country had difficulty recruiting enough fit working class men. Men were riddled with disease and poor nutrition.

In the second world war men came home and said f**k you Churchill. We've put out our lives on the line. We want decent houses and jobs. I can still remember the optimism of the fifties. The rebuilding, the year on year improvement in family spending power. 

It's all gone to shit now. Not by accident but by mismanagement and greed.

I disagree as no one asks you to stay in if you’re feeling the squeeze and if you’re feeling that you’d be better off not remaining then the worlds your oyster . Off you go out the door . 

for me though , I don’t think I’d want a normal job , I like going into the nonsense and chaos of work daily , you live on your wits and nothing ever gets done to 100 % as the saying goes  you just stab the closest crocodile. The pay is probably fair for the actual tangible work involved . 
 

everything  else is just nonsense , but required nonsense . 

[TOMO 28,652]

3 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

I disagree as no one asks you to stay in if you’re feeling the squeeze and if you’re feeling that you’d be better off not remaining then the worlds your oyster . Off you go out the door . 

for me though , I don’t think I’d want a normal job , I like going into the nonsense and chaos of work daily , you live on your wits and nothing ever gets done to 100 % as the saying goes  you just stab the closest crocodile. The pay is probably fair for the actual tangible work involved . 
 

everything  else is just nonsense , but required nonsense . 

are you still in army stiff...for some  reason  I thought  you had finished? 

[Lenmcharristar 10,285]

We are £360 in gas and £120 in electric per month, rip off ba$tards same for diesel, dont forget what stores ripped us off when it comes back down and dont go anywhere near them the robbing ba star ds

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,048]

Just now, TOMO said:

are you still in army stiff...for some  reason  I thought  you had finished? 

Yes I am mate ,Ive moved regiments a couple of times lately mate and into a new job spec which may have led to that thought pal looking at sone of my recent posts 

[paulus 26]

33 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

it’s all rated at nights out of bed type accumulation of days , obviously I have a few now for what’s termed Lsa to the point where going away is looked at as being a banker . 

but the loa payments and tour  bonuses are a thing of the past , the lads away straight out of the wrapper are at the bottom of that ladder . 
 

in the Afghan era , if you were sensible , you could be banking up to 20k above your pay for when your home again . It’s all about your needs , outgoings I suppose 

 

 

The LOA payments were a way of buying the new XR3i from the car sales place outside the Naafi 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,048]

Just now, paulus said:

The LOA payments were a way of buying the new XR3i from the car sales place outside the Naafi 

Even the German lads were feeling the squeeze a few years back , their misses whinging at them as they had to downgrade from the tax free and discounted m class Mercs to a focus estate

[paulus 26]

1 hour ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

I’m on the lowest possible energy plan from all the suppliers in my area …..my bill tripled . Went from being a month in credit to being a months use in debit , horrendous really 

You imagine being a single mother working for minimum wage, Its immoral mate.