mC HULL 15,904 Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 1 hour ago, socks said: spot on socks all from the best scientists useless cones to mind Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 David Bellamy was dropped by the BBC as he would not tow the line with there agenda on climate change, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 48,783 Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, paulus said: David Bellamy was dropped by the BBC as he would not tow the line with there agenda on climate change, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 21 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: And that was the last anybody heard from him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 Site here looks at questions and if you click on blue text of each subject looks deeper with view from alternate sides. Arguments from Global Warming Skeptics and what the science really says SKEPTICALSCIENCE.COM Examines the science and arguments of global warming skepticism. Common objections like 'global warming is caused by the sun', 'temperature has changed naturally... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 2 hours ago, socks said: Unfortunately (and it’s been proved via Elon musk) unless you tow the party line of the UN and WEF etc you will not get any air time or social media time. So the only mass information you get is from one side. There are thousands of eminent scientists that disagree with climate change. Also remember that every single prediction made about the catastrophic effects of climate change have not come to fruition. No there are not thousands of eminent climate scientists that disagree with climate change, its excepted science which means there is now a scientific consensus. "1) Depending on exactly how you measure the expert consensus, it’s somewhere between 90% and 100% that agree humans are responsible for climate change, with most of our studies finding 97% consensus among publishing climate scientists. 2) The greater the climate expertise among those surveyed, the higher the consensus on human-caused global warming. . Expert consensus is a powerful thing. People know we don’t have the time or capacity to learn about everything, and so we frequently defer to the conclusions of experts. It’s why we visit doctors when we’re ill. The same is true of climate change: most people defer to the expert consensus of climate scientists. Crucially, as we note in our paper: Public perception of the scientific consensus has been found to be a gateway belief, affecting other climate beliefs and attitudes including policy support. That’s why those who oppose taking action to curb climate change have engaged in a misinformation campaign to deny the existence of the expert consensus. They’ve been largely successful, as the public badly underestimate the expert consensus, in what we call the “consensus gap.” Only 16% of Americans realize that the consensus is above 90%. Scientific consensus on human-caused global warming as compared to the expertise of the surveyed sample. There’s a strong correlation between consensus and climate science expertise. Illustration: John Cook. Available on the SkS Graphics page From Arguments from Global Warming Skeptics and what the science really says SKEPTICALSCIENCE.COM Examines the science and arguments of global warming skepticism. Common objections like 'global warming is caused by the sun', 'temperature has changed naturally... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,904 Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, sandymere said: No there are not thousands of eminent climate scientists that disagree with climate change, its excepted science which means there is now a scientific consensus. "1) Depending on exactly how you measure the expert consensus, it’s somewhere between 90% and 100% that agree humans are responsible for climate change, with most of our studies finding 97% consensus among publishing climate scientists. 2) The greater the climate expertise among those surveyed, the higher the consensus on human-caused global warming. . Expert consensus is a powerful thing. People know we don’t have the time or capacity to learn about everything, and so we frequently defer to the conclusions of experts. It’s why we visit doctors when we’re ill. The same is true of climate change: most people defer to the expert consensus of climate scientists. Crucially, as we note in our paper: Public perception of the scientific consensus has been found to be a gateway belief, affecting other climate beliefs and attitudes including policy support. That’s why those who oppose taking action to curb climate change have engaged in a misinformation campaign to deny the existence of the expert consensus. They’ve been largely successful, as the public badly underestimate the expert consensus, in what we call the “consensus gap.” Only 16% of Americans realize that the consensus is above 90%. Scientific consensus on human-caused global warming as compared to the expertise of the surveyed sample. There’s a strong correlation between consensus and climate science expertise. Illustration: John Cook. Available on the SkS Graphics page From Arguments from Global Warming Skeptics and what the science really says SKEPTICALSCIENCE.COM Examines the science and arguments of global warming skepticism. Common objections like 'global warming is caused by the sun', 'temperature has changed naturally... do you agree these full a shite scientists have been wrong with predictions the last 70 year sandy ? from ozone to ice age to global warming now the call it climate change stone me who thought the climate changed what wallopers believe the shite Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, mC HULL said: do you agree these full a shite scientists have been wrong with predictions the last 70 year sandy ? from ozone to ice age to global warming now the call it climate change stone me who thought the climate changed what wallopers believe the shite No I don't agree. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 Sandy nobody is disputing that the ever increasing human population won’t have an effect on climate. But what thousands of scientists are saying is that there is no climate emergency. And yes there are thousands that say that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,904 Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 31 minutes ago, sandymere said: No I don't agree. what we’re they correct on ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 If only they could separate the natural cyclic events from the alleged man made ones. If they can not do this then surly they have no idea really. Remember the trust in the science comment that went with lockdowns, well that science now appears to have cost a fortune. lost Jobs and taken lives. Sorry i am not convinced in the whole theory of man made global warming but i do aggrege the world can only support a certain number of humans. I am also convinced that Old Mother Nature has a habit of resetting the balance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 13,161 Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, paulus said: If only they could separate the natural cyclic events from the alleged man made ones. If they can not do this then surly they have no idea really. Remember the trust in the science comment that went with lockdowns, well that science now appears to have cost a fortune. lost Jobs and taken lives. Sorry i am not convinced in the whole theory of man made global warming but i do aggrege the world can only support a certain number of humans. I am also convinced that Old Mother Nature has a habit of resetting the balance. Hey up, mother nature is having a good go at me at the moment, bit I will snuff it when I'm good n ready, I will notify socky wocky when I've gone Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, socks said: Sandy nobody is disputing that the ever increasing human population won’t have an effect on climate. But what thousands of scientists are saying is that there is no climate emergency. And yes there are thousands that say that. but they aren't climate scientists and in truth many are not scientists at all as anyone can sign it scientist or not indeed at least one has signed themselves as Micky Mouse. 31,000 scientists say "no convincing evidence". — OSS Foundation OSSFOUNDATION.US 31,000 scientists reject global warming and say "no convincing evidence" that humans can or will cause global warming? But polls show that of scientists... whereas as when climate scientists are questioned we see a massive consensus of over 90% agreeing to the impact of mankind being a driving force in climate change as demonstrated on the link I posted earlier. And certainly here. http://ossfoundation.us/projects/environment/global-warming/myths/31000-scientists-say-no-convincing-evidence/image Edited December 27, 2022 by sandymere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,822 Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 20 minutes ago, paulus said: If only they could separate the natural cyclic events from the alleged man made ones. If they can not do this then surly they have no idea really. Remember the trust in the science comment that went with lockdowns, well that science now appears to have cost a fortune. lost Jobs and taken lives. Sorry i am not convinced in the whole theory of man made global warming but i do aggrege the world can only support a certain number of humans. I am also convinced that Old Mother Nature has a habit of resetting the balance. Have a look at there methods to measure climate change an youl realise its not accurate at all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted December 27, 2022 Report Share Posted December 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Francie, said: Have a look at there methods to measure climate change an youl realise its not accurate at all Already have, Hence the post above Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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