Any Other Business

[eastcoast 4,596]

Turned the TV on and BBC4 opened. An interesting programme, Loretta Lynn -Still a Mountain Girl. 1st song played a coal miner's daughter. Got me thinking, my mam was a coal miner's daughter. Most people where I was born were sons or daughters of coal miners but no songs have really been written about it. Well, there have been, but not celebrated in the way it is in other countries, particularly as in the good old US of A. A battle was fought and won in this country. Coal mining was bad. Green is good (Margret Thatcher played a blinder to get the bleeding heart middle classes on board) and even though we are still sitting atop of billions  £££s of coal, even in the grip of a global energy crisis, we will not be mining it. At least silicosis of the lungs is a thing of the past... well, should be but people are not being educated and protected to the standard that they should be. That is something that I angered people about today. Also, Mental Health Day this Monday coming. Lads topping themselves becoming ever more common. Working in construction. FFS.

Anyway, I was at a meeting today that ended as they all do with any other business. I came on here to see if the people who post funny or interesting things had posted in the sections that they do and thought... what if people just want post random stuff that does not fit into an existing thread? Have a rant or a vent. Or post something positive or... whatever.

Don't worry, if mods do not delete this I will at 14:50 tomorrow. If I remember.

 

[chartpolski 28,372]

3 minutes ago, eastcoast said:

Turned the TV on and BBC4 opened. An interesting programme, Loretta Lynn -Still a Mountain Girl. 1st song played a coal miner's daughter. Got me thinking, my mam was a coal miner's daughter. Most people where I was born were sons or daughters of coal miners but no songs have really been written about it. Well, there have been, but not celebrated in the way it is in other countries, particularly as in the good old US of A. A battle was fought and won in this country. Coal mining was bad. Green is good (Margret Thatcher played a blinder to get the bleeding heart middle classes on board) and even though we are still sitting atop of billions  £££s of coal, even in the grip of a global energy crisis, we will not be mining it. At least silicosis of the lungs is a thing of the past... well, should be but people are not being educated and protected to the standard that they should be. That is something that I angered people about today. Also, Mental Health Day this Monday coming. Lads topping themselves becoming ever more common. Working in construction. FFS.

Anyway, I was at a meeting today that ended as they all do with any other business. I came on here to see if the people who post funny or interesting things had posted in the sections that they do and thought... what if people just want post random stuff that does not fit into an existing thread? Have a rant or a vent. Or post something positive or... whatever.

Don't worry, if mods do not delete this I will at 14:50 tomorrow. If I remember.

 

Have you not read any of KD's posts ?

Cheers.

[eastcoast 4,596]

1 minute ago, chartpolski said:

Have you not read any of KD's posts ?

Cheers.

KD's are pure GOLD. Love them. Funny, interesting, educational at times. Most importantly enjoyable. My reason for this is, if you have something to write and can not slot it into an answer to an existing thread, just post on AOB.

[Ken's Deputy 4,462]

And I was just replying on his other post, Charts!

Too fukkin right, mate! I post for Me, first and foremost. Get out what ever's on my mind. Any kunt wants to look at it, or not? That's entirely up to them, isn't it?

Ian never once said that 'All posts made here shall be of irresistible interest to every kunt else. Appealing and appeasing to all who blow through here, or it's wiped.'

Nor did he ever stipulate that every last one of us with a username shall acknowledge the existence of every post.

Be a bit like being Forced to read every inch of a paper, otherwise, wouldn't it? No fukker'd be having that!

[low plains drifter 11,279]

 

[eastcoast 4,596]

Anyone who is using a machine drilling into brick, concrete etc the dust you are creating is silica dust. We have been breathing this stuff in for years. We should not not be breathing it in in 2022. Your employer should provide machines with on tool dust extraction or collection. You should be provided with suitable RPE. We all know about the dangers of asbestos, yeah? we should be aware, many are still ignoring it. If you are self employed and are not bothered so be it. Can take a horse to water... Sick of going to funerals of men who should be enjoying their retirement. 

[eastcoast 4,596]

When it comes to wages, most will do their homework. Know exactly to the penny what they should be paid. And kick up a stink if their employer is taking the piss. When it comes to H&S, these same savi brave men allow themselves to be bent over. 

[king 12,038]

29 minutes ago, eastcoast said:

Anyone who is using a machine drilling into brick, concrete etc the dust you are creating is silica dust. We have been breathing this stuff in for years. We should not not be breathing it in in 2022. Your employer should provide machines with on tool dust extraction or collection. You should be provided with suitable RPE. We all know about the dangers of asbestos, yeah? we should be aware, many are still ignoring it. If you are self employed and are not bothered so be it. Can take a horse to water... Sick of going to funerals of men who should be enjoying their retirement. 

I'm in a limestone quarry with a high silica content..its not a good thing to breathe in as you say mate..

[eastcoast 4,596]

8 minutes ago, Pez79 said:

Some people just can't get that grey matter to work mate, one thing is sure, your employer doesn't care about your personal wellbeing, you've got to look after yourself.

Section 7, 1974 H&S at Work Act. Employer and employee.

[tatsblisters 11,036]

11 hours ago, eastcoast said:

Anyone who is using a machine drilling into brick, concrete etc the dust you are creating is silica dust. We have been breathing this stuff in for years. We should not not be breathing it in in 2022. Your employer should provide machines with on tool dust extraction or collection. You should be provided with suitable RPE. We all know about the dangers of asbestos, yeah? we should be aware, many are still ignoring it. If you are self employed and are not bothered so be it. Can take a horse to water... Sick of going to funerals of men who should be enjoying their retirement. 

Seeing some of the old pitmen around me years ago and how their health was affected by their job i always wore a mask when the coal cutting machine was in action . The worst job i have ever worked in for dust and lack of any health and safety was for various demolition company's one from North Nottinghamshire called D Tec Environmental one of their managers sent lads into a building to work wile a machine at the other end was pecking part of the roof down and the full roof collapsed killing one of them.

[socks 32,253]

Did 2 years in the pit. On a good day when I got home I could cough up enough dust to keep the fire burning for hours. 

[jukel123 9,643]

Is corrugated asbestos roofing dangerous if breathed in? I remember sawing lengths by hand when I was roofing50 years back. I was completely green about the danger then. Isn't there  various categories of asbestos , some more dangerous than others?

Edited October 8, 2022 by jukel123

[tatsblisters 11,036]

2 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Is corrugated asbestos roofing dangerous if breathed in? I remember sawing lengths by hand when I was roofing. Isn't there  various categories of asbestos , some more dangerous than others?

Always told the blue asbestos was the most dangerous and i know to a few wife's of men who worked with asbestos in the past also lost their lives to asbestoses' by handling their work clothes during washing them . I was up Scotland some years ago in the company of a larger than life character who flew golden eagles and had recently lost his wife through asbestosis through her previous employment year's ago working in a laundrette.

[Nicepix 5,650]

Most of the beaters on the shoot I was part of were redundant miners. Despite the hardships of the job they would have returned to the lits in a heartbeat. One of them used to say that he'd go back to the pit tomorrow, if only to catch up on his sleep. 

My Dad was a ripper dahn't pit and virtually everyone we knew hsd some colliery connection. Most of them over 50 were knackered through dust or injuries. My Dad succumbed to a kidney condition brought on by a rock fall. So why would the miners go back to working in such hostile conditions? Because the pits held the communities together. Those lads schooled, worked, drank, fished, ran dogs, kept chickens and tended their gardens together. It doesn't happen now. Where 3,000 men found employment and provided employment for hundreds of shop keepers there are now a collection of factories staffed by Poles or employing 5 or 6 people, none of whom live in the area. The fishing boats going out of Whitby and Scarborough on a weekend were full of miners. Coaches full of miners went down to the Lincolnshire drains or the Trent, or up to the Yorkshire rivers wherd they fished. More coaches took the football and rugby teams and their supporters to matches against other collieries. That has all gone. Where there was work and pride there is now no social cohesion. Nothing has been put in place to replace that.

I used the music in the clip below to accompany a little video I made about the dereliction of the steel industry. It came from the film Brassed Off. I lived in the village they called Grimley, really Grimethorpe, or Grimey as everyone calls it. It is very appropriate. Like the funeral music to an industry's death.

 

Edited October 8, 2022 by Nicepix

[tatsblisters 11,036]

2 minutes ago, Nicepix said:

Most of the beaters on the shoot I was part of were redundant miners. Despite the hardships of the job they would have returned to the lits in a heartbeat. One of them used to say that he'd go back to the pit tomorrow, if only to catch up on his sleep. 

My Dad was a ripper dahn't pit and virtually everyone we knew hsd some colliery connection. Most of them over 50 were knackered through dust or injuries. My Dad succumbed to a kidney condition brought on by a rock fall. So why would the miners go back to working in such hostile conditions? Because the pits held the communities together. Those lads schooled, worked, drank, fished, ran dogs, kept chickens and tended their gardens together. It doesn't happen now. Where 3,000 men found employment and provided employment for hundreds of shop keepers there are now a collection of factories staffed by Poles or employing 5 or 6 people, none of whom live in the area. The fishing boats going out of Whitby and Scarborough on a weekend were full of miners. Coaches full of miners went down to the Lincolnshire drains or the Trent, or up to the Yorkshire rivers wherd they fished. More coaches took the football and rugby teams and their supporters to matches against other collieries. That has all gone. Where there was work and pride there is now no social cohesion. Nothing has been put in place to replace that.

I used the music in tge clip below to accompany a little video I made about the dereliction of the steel industry. It came from the film Brassed Off. I lived in the village they called Grimley, really Grimethorpe, or Grimey as everyone calls it. It is very appropriate. Like the funeral music to an industry's death.

 

Brilliant post thank you very much .