Porn

[jukel123 6,570]

Just now, Born Hunter said:

I think what it says about us is that either society does an awful lot to repress natural sexual behaviour. That can be good and bad. Or that society/technology has perverted our sexual behaviour. Either would explain why when you remove social judgement, people get freaky.

Its difficult to have these discussions without someone getting premenstrual. But anyway…

I recall a very interesting hypothesis from an anthropological psychologist where he posited that there were three fundamental natural behaviours of human reproduction. Long term pair bonding where the male contributes significant time and energy to raising his offspring; opportunistic sex where the female attracts a male genetically superior to her but the male does not commit to anything more. And finally rape, where obviously a male forces himself on a woman, a way of breeding with a female who’s superior I suppose. Anyway, his hypothesis was that the first two explained the difference between beauty and hotness. However, I do wonder if the real abusive porn is some sort of manifestation of ancient rape behaviours.

I also think it’s important to differentiate between abusive stuff and domination. If there really is a distinction?

Looking into the future, eventually VR will be indistinguishable from reality and ANY fantasy will be victimless… then we’ll have some real difficult ethical decisions to make. Understanding the route of these behaviours will be really important.

"The difference between abusive stuff and domination." That's what troubles me. Fisting and stuff akin to that is very close to sadism imo. I cant see any female enjoying that. The stock reply is "well don't watch it." and I don't. But  the vulnerable or the young are exposed to such stuff and believe it to  be an acceptable  and normal part of sexual activity which is problematic.

[WILF 44,329]

Just now, bird said:

haha  above , but the real prob , is young girls , that are used in the sex trade, and struggle to break free , they get them hooked on  hard drugs etc. no porn a  bad thing in society , and always will be . ok with all watched it, but if you really look at the big picture  its bad . i was watching the other night the Yorkshire ripper  last tapes, and it was eye opener  how he viewed  prostitutes, just like pieces   of meat  to kill main , he was evil  twat , ok the women  might choose that way of life, or not, but there still humans   like the rest of us. 

Some women definitely do choose that way of life and some do not.

I don’t think you can relate the thought process of a sick psychopath to porn, it’s almost moving the blame…..psychopaths will be psychopaths wether porn or prostitution exists or not…..don’t try and understand these peoples motivation because the normal mind just can’t mate.

[SheepChaser 8,082]

5 minutes ago, WILF said:

I’d be really interested to know wether they feel they have this problem on the continent ?…….I wonder ! 

Interestingly, having slept with women from most European countries; Oz, nz, America, Canada and a few others ...... there are deffo different vibes and attitudes to it all. In general British woman are both, the least initially adventurous and open and yet the easiest to get into bed. They were also the ones that got the most hung up over sexual encounters. Other Europeans ranged from “we have six for sport” to “now you have kissed me you must meet my mother”. 
 

My top nations would be - any Scandinavians, the Dutch and Germans, for openness and not going nutty post nakedness. 
 

 

[pesky1972 4,929]

Sure there’s a law coming which will require proof of age to access porn sites in the UK. Not sure how/if it will work. Hope it does though, kids shouldn’t have access to hardcore porn. How the fcuk we ever allowed this in the first place is beyond me. 

[WILF 44,329]

3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

"I cant see any female enjoying that. 

There it is mate, that’s the bit we find hard to deal with.

Life is a varied old menu with many different tastes and there will definitely be some women out there who do like that sort of thing…..whatever we can dream up, someone will be into it.

The important bit is understanding that it’s a journey of respectful discovery with a partner, even if that amounts to only one night…..that’s why open dialogue with your children is important.

That way, they won’t be afraid to ask and hopefully be mature about these things 

[jukel123 6,570]

Just now, SheepChaser said:

Interestingly, having slept with women from most European countries; Oz, nz, America, Canada and a few others ...... there are deffo different vibes and attitudes to it all. In general British woman are both, the least initially adventurous and open and yet the easiest to get into bed. They were also the ones that got the most hung up over sexual encounters. Other Europeans ranged from “we have six for sport” to “now you have kissed me you must meet my mother”. 
 

My top nations would be - any Scandinavians, the Dutch and Germans, for openness and not going nutty post nakedness. 
 

 

I cant compete with that mate. I was married when I was a boy and never strayed since. But I ain't complaining.. Don't think sexual adventure awaits me at my  age of 72

[Born Hunter 17,639]

2 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

"The difference between abusive stuff and domination." That's what troubles me. Fisting and stuff akin to that is very close to sadism imo. I cant see any female enjoying that. The stock reply is "well don't watch it." and I don't. But  the vulnerable or the young are exposed to such stuff and believe it to  be an acceptable  and normal part of sexual activity which is problematic.

I can’t say I’ve got a great deal of experience with fisting tbh, lol. But I think there’s pleasure in ‘forbidden fruit’ so to speak. I think women who are particularly free, nympho types, want to do stuff beyond what is conventional. So much of the pleasure in sex is context and psychology imo, only part of it is physical. Ie one blowjob might be physically the same as another blowjob buy the pleasure derived can be vastly different. And that’s down to how context/environment affects the mind/mood. So acts that don't seem physically stimulating might be deeply psychologically stimulating.

Again imo. Wtf do I know! 

[WILF 44,329]

5 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

Interestingly, having slept with women from most European countries; Oz, nz, America, Canada and a few others ...... there are deffo different vibes and attitudes to it all. In general British woman are both, the least initially adventurous and open and yet the easiest to get into bed. They were also the ones that got the most hung up over sexual encounters. Other Europeans ranged from “we have six for sport” to “now you have kissed me you must meet my mother”. 
 

My top nations would be - any Scandinavians, the Dutch and Germans, for openness and not going nutty post nakedness. 
 

 

I always found women much more fun than men to be around, they are much more open and naughty but without half the hang ups or silly little boy attitudes.

 

[Gav 1,708]

2 hours ago, jukel123 said:

I didn't say that.

No I did

[mackem 23,824]

I had a relationship with a fantastic woman except she was a bit strange in the bedroom, wanted me to slap her and urinate on her, she said she enjoyed it, I didn't

There's some very strange people out there, your often unaware of it till your intimate with them, the kinkiest I met was an Austrian lady, loved outdoor sex, and lots of it

[SheepChaser 8,082]

6 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

I cant compete with that mate. I was married when I was a boy and never strayed since. But I ain't complaining.. Don't think sexual adventure awaits me at my  age of 72

I used to be a terrible human being if I am honest never intentionally hurt anyone, but just wanted to experience as much of anything as I could. Travelled all over, drank and smoked too much, sniffed, swallowed, licked any and every chemical and natural substance I could find, and attempted to seduce any and every woman I met.  I now have a terrible short term memory, a body that feels a lot older than it should, a couple of illegitimate children probably and some cool stories. 

[WILF 44,329]

I suppose the proof if any was needed that people are more “out there” than most of us would believe is the Dogging thing, that’s a real big thing…..there was a hotspot round my old way and it was heaving with people every night, it became a major problem for the locals.

Everyone was f***ing everyone else, blokes f***ing blokes, women getting gang banged, the whole nine yards…..going lamping was always an adventure !, people would be jumping out of bushes asking if you wanted to jizz over their wife or ride their uncle and all sorts !

Mind blowing !……just trying to catch a few rabbits mate, leave me out ! Lol 

[jukel123 6,570]

7 minutes ago, WILF said:

I always found women much more fun than men to be around, they are much more open and naughty but without half the hang ups or silly little boy attitudes.

 

I am completely  different. I never know where women are coming from( no pun intended). Men are much more straightforward. A nutty woman is scary whereas I know how to deal with men of all types.

[iworkwhippets 12,247]

4 minutes ago, mackem said:

I had a relationship with a fantastic woman except she was a bit strange in the bedroom, wanted me to slap her and urinate on her, she said she enjoyed it, I didn't

There's some very strange people out there, your often unaware of it till your intimate with them, the kinkiest I met was an Austrian lady, loved outdoor sex, and lots of it

   eh,  send her here , i spend more time at night in the bog emptying my bladder than i do in my pit 

[WILF 44,329]

Just now, jukel123 said:

I am completely  different. I never know where women are coming from( no pun intended). Men are much more straightforward. A nutty woman is scary whereas I know how to deal with men of all types.

Girls are wild mate, I used to find that fantastic