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2 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

It's weird how the old boys held power in the pubs and in the workplace. Their opinions were sacrosanct.  The "spiteful" kids also held power because of their  sporadic violence. Now both groups are pretty much redundant.   Big business holds the power now in the form of fast food joints, bookies and massive  car parks. I often wonder about kids sense of self identity nowadays. In the old days we had 'uniforms__ Ben shermans stay press trousers brogues or boots. Kids these days seem to recycle fashions and have no distinct look.

I think that about fashion today....perhaps every older generation did in the past though. 

 

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@gnasher16 here’s a nice little article about the glass bridge scroll down for some good pics on it as I said I used to live literally 2 minutes across the road, looking at those pics I remember that Banger car team the Orphans and even some of the graffiti there’s one bit of graffiti you can see Chris with a crown above his name I’m sure he went on to be our local milkman we all used to nick his milk & orange

edited to point out the last pic was Mcdougals Flour mill huge local employers at the time also we had Tate & Lyles as you did up at Canning Town I believe and in the 70s it caught fire and the police at the time came down the streets with loud hailers and evacuated us all to the local park to escape the smoke it was a big story at the time.

The Glass Bridge | Isle of Dogs – Past Life, Past Lives

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[Much text by Con Maloney] Glengall Road, later Grove, used to run right across the Island, from Westferry Rd (near the current Sir John McDougall Park) to...

 

Edited February 10, 2022 by FLATTOP

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The lost world of Salford docks, where fathers and sons toiled among whiskey, cotton and banana boats - Manchester Evening News

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Salford Quays is now a bustling hive of media companies, restaurants and swanky apartments - it used to be very different

 

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I was born maybe two hundred yards from the dock gates and about fifty yards from The Fox pub. All my family and my wife's family worked on the docks. The Fox was basically a brothel. Seamen from all over the world would descend on The Fox looking for sex or a fight. The tables and chairs in The Fox had to be screwed to the floor-seriously. I know working class people have a kind of inverted snobbery where they try and outdo each other when talking about their poor childhoods but The Fox was officially designated the roughest pub in Europe. So there!

 As kids we used to follow the blood trails from the pub hoping or dreading to find a body. The whores were often tarts with hearts and were always good for a few bob at Guy Fawkes night. Sometimes we would stand at the door of the pub and ask if my dad was in the pub because my mam needs money for milk. They would often cough up  a few pence. Sorry girls.

Pubs of Manchester: Fox, Regent Road

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Fox, Regent Road, Salford. (c) Neil Richardson [1]. The Fox Inn stood on the corner of Goodiers Lane and Regent Road and can be trace...

 

Edited February 10, 2022 by jukel123

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13 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

 

The lost world of Salford docks, where fathers and sons toiled among whiskey, cotton and banana boats - Manchester Evening News

WWW.MANCHESTEREVENINGNEWS.CO.UK

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Salford Quays is now a bustling hive of media companies, restaurants and swanky apartments - it used to be very different

 

Interesting article, those types of cranes are the same type that bowed during Winston Churchills funeral.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

I was born maybe two hundred yards from the dock gates and about fifty yards from The Fox pub. All my family and my wife's family worked on the docks. The Fox was basically a brothel. Seamen from all over the world would descend on The Fox looking for sex or a fight. The tables and chairs in The Fox had to be screwed to the floor-seriously. I know working class people have a kind of inverted snobbery where they try and outdo each other when talking about their poor childhoods but The Fox was officially designated the roughest pub in Europe. So there!

 As kids we used to follow the blood trails from the pub hoping or dreading to find a body. The whores were often tarts with hearts and were always good for a few bob at Guy Fawkes night. Sometimes we would stand at the door of the pub and ask if my dad was in the pub because my mam needs money for milk. They would often cough up  a few pence. Sorry girls.

Pubs of Manchester: Fox, Regent Road

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Fox, Regent Road, Salford. (c) Neil Richardson [1]. The Fox Inn stood on the corner of Goodiers Lane and Regent Road and can be trace...

 

Isn’t amazing how our society has changed in just 50/60 years to what it is now and your right it’s almost like the Monty Python’s sketch with working class people, we used have dirt for dinner they used to shoot you in the pub and you only asked for a bag of Chrisps that sort of thing I suppose it’s a sort of pride thing in a strange kind of way.  

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5 minutes ago, FLATTOP said:

Isn’t amazing how our society has changed in just 50/60 years to what it is now and your right it’s almost like the Monty Python’s sketch with working class people, we used have dirt for dinner they used to shoot you in the pub and you only asked for a bag of Chrisps that sort of thing I suppose it’s a sort of pride thing in a strange kind of way.  

You are right. The change has been unbelievable. I walked to my sister's house after watching a night time match at Old Trafford a year or so back. I swear I did not encounter a soul all the way back. It was all underpasses and deserted streets. I admit I felt vulnerable. When I was a kid there was always people whatever the time of day. Suppose they imprisoned them all in high rise flats.

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3 hours ago, FLATTOP said:

That’s a very good picture the old teaching the young whose the young lad his face looks familiar ain’t you is it , typical old boy of the time cardigan wrist watch fag hanging out of his mouth.

Didn't Frank Bruno used to train there back in the day ?

He's nobody famous mate just another scruffy little oik out the flats ....in them days if you boxed for West Ham or Repton as a kid you would train at The Oak on a Sunday morning to be around the big names of the day and seasoned old timers etc....yes Frank trained there as did many others it was probably the most sought after gym for sparring in the country at the time.

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1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

Alan Minter?

 Folk always associate Minter with East London but he wasnt even a Londoner he was from down Gatwick way managed by old man Bidwell.....in fairness the last place Minter should of been training was above a pub bless him !

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1 hour ago, FLATTOP said:

@gnasher16 here’s a nice little article about the glass bridge scroll down for some good pics on it as I said I used to live literally 2 minutes across the road, looking at those pics I remember that Banger car team the Orphans and even some of the graffiti there’s one bit of graffiti you can see Chris with a crown above his name I’m sure he went on to be our local milkman we all used to nick his milk & orange

edited to point out the last pic was Mcdougals Flour mill huge local employers at the time also we had Tate & Lyles as you did up at Canning Town I believe and in the 70s it caught fire and the police at the time came down the streets with loud hailers and evacuated us all to the local park to escape the smoke it was a big story at the time.

The Glass Bridge | Isle of Dogs – Past Life, Past Lives

ISLANDHISTORY.WORDPRESS.COM

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[Much text by Con Maloney] Glengall Road, later Grove, used to run right across the Island, from Westferry Rd (near the current Sir John McDougall Park) to...

 

I'll have a look through that mate cheers.....they must have cleaned the bridge up a bit for the photos eh 

Tate & Lyle is still just about there but going through an almighty battle not to get flattened,but it will.......i think the regeneration of the area is great but the down side is it creates an even bigger gap between the wealthy and the poor its like Rathbone Market when the flats went up the council promised all the stall holders it would still be a market.....the space is there to still have it but do the high flyers who bought the flats really want to buy cheap tat off the market,no......and the old timers still there will just head up to Walthamstow......its the only problem with urban improvements it just creates bigger gaps within the community.

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1 hour ago, gnasher16 said:

 Folk always associate Minter with East London but he wasnt even a Londoner he was from down Gatwick way managed by old man Bidwell.....in fairness the last place Minter should of been training was above a pub bless him !

Still remember the scenes after he lost to Hagler. Fought a stupid fight given his opponent. That fight had a racial element to it if I remember. Some things never change. Funny to think that fight was over 40 years back.

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3 hours ago, Arry said:

Now I'm not saying it is that Pub but don't half look like it, probably loads like it in London on a corner. It brought a memory back in a flash. Now reckon it was early 80's and I was a little hippy type at the time, would had been up the smoke to see either Frank Zappa at Wembley pool or Crosby, Stills Nash and Young at Wembley. Christ know where we was in town but went into a pub just like that sat at a round table in the middle and decided to have a game of cards. So asked for a deck no problem and sorted 25 cards we needed out from the pack to play a game called Euchre. Well Euchre was played in just about every Pub at the time in the West Country at that time not so much now but still a bit of league. As we started to play we drew a circle of mostly older chaps all around us that started to get a bit stroppy as they thought we was students on a wind up. They had never seen the game so we gave up playing laid the hand on the table an explained how the game worked to get us out of trouble, most went back to the bar. Half a dozen stay and we had a bloody good laugh with them. Funny how things turn out sometimes.

Cheers Arry

I know a few old chaps still playing in euchre league now. But no youngsters wanting to play. Same with the skittles the divisions are slowly getting smaller again no youngsters really starting teams anymore which is a shame 

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31 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Still remember the scenes after he lost to Hagler. Fought a stupid fight given his opponent. That fight had a racial element to it if I remember. Some things never change. Funny to think that fight was over 40 years back.

I remember it like it was yesterday !…..I can tell you now I’d have been about 9 and was listening all about the turnout the morning after on the radio in the car, was heading over to Wapping to my uncles house……used to play all round there as a kid when we visited.

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38 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Still remember the scenes after he lost to Hagler. Fought a stupid fight given his opponent. That fight had a racial element to it if I remember. Some things never change. Funny to think that fight was over 40 years back.

As i remember he had said he would never lose his title to a black man.....ooops.

It would be fair to say there was a large contingent of NF in the arena that night i always remember Harry Carpenters commentary " people are throwing beer cans into the ring one just landed on me "..........not the cleverest night for British boxing unfortunately.

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I remember him for his fights with Finnegan. Close decisions over  15 rounds. I used to kind of look up to him because he wore the same type of clobber and had the same type of hairstyle as me and my mates had.

To be honest, although he fought a stupid fight against Hagler, he would have been well beaten whatever the tac tics he had used. Hagler was at a different level imo.