Rural organisations call on House of Lords to support hare poaching amendment

[chartpolski 27,958]

7 minutes ago, riohog said:

think i might get a cheetah, ,the law doesnt apply to hunting with cats!!

 

Cheers.

[riohog 5,938]

1 minute ago, chartpolski said:

 

Cheers.

yeah one of them will do ,

[Gypsydog94 4,705]

11 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Beagles are the same as any other dog in relation to the Hunting Act. Hares are their quarry, and hunting hares is illegal.

Cheers.

But your allowed to use a pack of hounds to hunt a wounded hare. Does that mean you can use a runner on permission as long as puss is wounded? 

[chartpolski 27,958]

Just now, Gypsydog94 said:

But your allowed to use a pack of hounds to hunt a wounded hare. Does that mean you can use a runner on permission as long as puss is wounded? 

Never heard of that. The only exemption I know of is to use a maximum of two dogs to flush game to a gun or bird of prey.

Cheers.

[Greb147 6,810]

14 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Never heard of that. The only exemption I know of is to use a maximum of two dogs to flush game to a gun or bird of prey.

Cheers.

Absolutely lunacy, so why is it OK to catch a hare with a hawk or eagle but not a dog? 

They just make shit up as they go along. 

[chartpolski 27,958]

6 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

Absolutely lunacy, so why is it OK to catch a hare with a hawk or eagle but not a dog? 

They just make shit up as they go along. 

I know, but the ban was never about animal welfare, it was the Labour Party wanting, in their words, "to give Tory toffs in red coats a bloody nose"

And in the draughting of the law, instead of saying foxes and foxhounds, it was extended as a catchall to include all dogs and all mammals, with the exception of rats and rabbits.

Purely class hatred, nothing to do with animal welfare.

Cheers.

[Gypsydog94 4,705]

16 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I know, but the ban was never about animal welfare, it was the Labour Party wanting, in their words, "to give Tory toffs in red coats a bloody nose"

And in the draughting of the law, instead of saying foxes and foxhounds, it was extended as a catchall to include all dogs and all mammals, with the exception of rats and rabbits.

Purely class hatred, nothing to do with animal welfare.

Cheers.

I see Jim barrington (former lacs) is researching into the effects of the hunting act on the animals it was suppose to protect. It’s called the rural wrongs project. 

[South hams hunter 8,988]

1 hour ago, Gypsydog94 said:

But your allowed to use a pack of hounds to hunt a wounded hare. Does that mean you can use a runner on permission as long as puss is wounded? 

Doesn't specify method or dog number so I suppose you could; just to catch a wounded hare 

[chartpolski 27,958]

35 minutes ago, South hams hunter said:

Doesn't specify method or dog number so I suppose you could; just to catch a wounded hare 

Here's the relevant section of the hunting act, including wounded animals;

Section 1 (5) states no more than two dogs to be used in stalking or flushing.

section 5 deals with the retrieving of wounded hares.

 

Hunting Act 2004

WWW.LEGISLATION.GOV.UK

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An Act to make provision about hunting wild mammals with dogs; to prohibit hare coursing; and for connected purposes. 9

Cheers.

[South hams hunter 8,988]

3 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Here's the relevant section of the hunting act, including wounded animals;

Section 1 (5) states no more than two dogs to be used in stalking or flushing.

section 5 deals with the retrieving of wounded hares.

 

Hunting Act 2004

WWW.LEGISLATION.GOV.UK

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An Act to make provision about hunting wild mammals with dogs; to prohibit hare coursing; and for connected purposes. 9

Cheers.

That's what I thought; no more than 2 dogs but the way Ive read it is that retrieval of hares is separate from flushing and stalking. Would that put a 2 dog limit on it? 

[Ken's Deputy 4,462]

2 hours ago, riohog said:

think i might get a cheetah, ,the law doesnt apply to hunting with cats!!

[chartpolski 27,958]

Just now, South hams hunter said:

That's what I thought; no more than 2 dogs but the way Ive read it is that retrieval of hares is separate from flushing and stalking. Would that put a 2 dog limit on it? 

Yes, it's there in section 5 of Schedule one, exempt hunting, stalking and flushing out. No where in the act does it mention any more than two dogs.

Cheers.

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,127]

Did anyone actually expect any thing totally different to happen ?? Honestly 

 

[tatsblisters 10,958]

11 hours ago, chartpolski said:

I know, but the ban was never about animal welfare, it was the Labour Party wanting, in their words, "to give Tory toffs in red coats a bloody nose"

And in the draughting of the law, instead of saying foxes and foxhounds, it was extended as a catchall to include all dogs and all mammals, with the exception of rats and rabbits.

Purely class hatred, nothing to do with animal welfare.

Cheers.

That's the truth and it was confirmed to me recently after watching a YouTube channel of a lad from around here an ex miner who was bang into his lurchers and has killed his fair share of gear who has turned into an anti and it's obvious his rants are down to his extreme left wing views. 

[tatsblisters 10,958]

I don't know how lad's cope with having dogs confiscated it only happened to me once and the reason the police gave wile letting the keeper's take my dog was that I was suspected of poaching on crown land. The dog was back with me within 2 days.