socks 32,253 Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, sandymere said: Is it me or are the Covid denialists and the global warming denialist all the same I'm astounded by the humble THL having such an illustrious group of scientists with such an extraordinary breath of scientific knowledge spanning climate science to epidemiology ........................................... Alas I can only base my opinion on expert knowledge, hence my linking to studies etc, i wish i to could become so expert to be able to see beyond what all the experts see............... Nobody needs an extraordinary breath of scientific knowledge we just need to be able to google and read things just like you do …….. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,261 Posted August 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, socks said: Then of course there’s the media agenda. She has lots of media coverage and spoken to the US government but she is one against thousands of scientists, and as such is against he great consensus of scientific opinion. PS she agrees global warming is happening. Judith Curry - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG Edited August 10, 2021 by sandymere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 I’ve never seen her interviewed on tv have you ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,261 Posted August 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, socks said: Nobody needs an extraordinary breath of scientific knowledge we just need to be able to google and read things just like you do …….. But to disagree with the massive scientific consensual of expert opinion.........Google isn't research its playing, the scientists do the research and publish it so read the research that is easily available. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,261 Posted August 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, socks said: I’ve never seen her interviewed on tv have you ? Shes well known in america believe but popular press etc isn't science or evidence its publicity, forget the publicity, go to the science. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,334 Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, sandymere said: But to disagree with the massive scientific consensual of expert opinion.........Google isn't research its playing, the scientists do the research and publish it so read the research that is easily available. I’ll put this as simply as I can…..how will governments helping themselves to gargantuan amounts of ordinary citizens money solve the problem if they are not changing the policy’s that create the problem. Try and answer for yourself if possible Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 20,427 Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 "Follow the money".......I think it was "Deep Throat's" advice during Watergate. Good advice, that never goes out of date. Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,261 Posted August 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, socks said: And I can find plenty of scientists that will say that the displacement of floating ice equals out by volume once it melts showing that it will not raise sea levels. Theres a simple experiment to prove this. Fill a glass with ice and top up with water. When the ice melts if your correct it should pour over the top of the glass yes with fresh water but not salt water read the link in my reply, it explains it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, sandymere said: But to disagree with the massive scientific consensual of expert opinion.........Google isn't research its playing, the scientists do the research and publish it so read the research that is easily available. Science is split 50/50 on most things so you to who you believe or who the likes of google YouTube Twitter etc ALLOW on their forums. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,261 Posted August 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, WILF said: I’ll put this as simply as I can…..how will governments helping themselves to gargantuan amounts of ordinary citizens money solve the problem if they are not changing the policy’s that create the problem. Try and answer for yourself if possible So there needs to be pressure to force change, people like Greta Thunberg or who ever may be annoying but by publicising the issues they bring pressure to bear. The science is pretty unequivocal, I'm not saying there is an easy answer, i'm saying there is a problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, sandymere said: yes with fresh water but not salt water read the link in my reply, it explains it. Edited as I hadn’t read it correctly. That is one man suggesting that theory. You are now going against what you preach about checking facts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,261 Posted August 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, socks said: Science is split 50/50 on most things so you to who you believe or who the likes of google YouTube Twitter etc ALLOW on their forums. Is it? ..................... based on what? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 minute ago, sandymere said: Is it? ..................... based on what? Based on common knowledge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,334 Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, sandymere said: So there needs to be pressure to force change, people like Greta Thunberg or who ever may be annoying but by publicising the issues they bring pressure to bear. The science is pretty unequivocal, I'm not saying there is an easy answer, i'm saying there is a problem. Of course there’s a fecking problem !!…..duhh!! Lol Every man and his dog can see how we are living ain’t right……but policy dictates how everyone has to live ! So again, how does stealing money from people help in any way ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,261 Posted August 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, socks said: The very first line of that says when Ice on land slides into water. I’ve already said that. Floating ice means icebergs sheet Ice shelf ice etc ……. But sea ice is floating and its fresh water, it doesn't matter if it was formed on land or at sea its still fresh water so as it melts it will increase sea levels, You state "the displacement of floating ice equals out by volume once it melts showing that it will not raise sea levels. " which is wrong as the sea is salt water as demonstrated in the link. if you do find a "scientist" that "And I can find plenty of scientists that will say that the displacement of floating ice equals out by volume once it melts showing that it will not raise sea levels." I'd check their scientific credentials. Image of fresh water ice cube in salt water then when its melted note the rise. An as demonstrated with an iceberg. . Edited August 10, 2021 by sandymere 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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