Lenmcharristar 10,296 Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 hours ago, eastcoast said: A left of field comment possibly but something that I have long thought to be true in regard to the English celebrating St. George's day. I am old enough to have seen changes in England. When I was young St. George's day was not celebrated. No one cared. It was not an issue. All the time that I have lived the Irish, Scots and Welsh have celebrated their patron saint's day. The English did not. The reason, in my opinion without wanting to offend anyone is this: The Irish, Scots and Welsh are defeated countries. Historically that cannot be argued with? Defeated by the English and in one form or the other forced to live under English rule in varying degrees spanning centuries. I am not defended the rights or wrongs of this. For one day a year they took the opportunity to put 2 fingers up to the English and embrace their own nationality by celebrating their patron saint. Far more complicated than that of course and more than one day a year in many cases but... The English never felt the need to do this. No one ever stopped them flying their flag or stopped them "being English". Until about the 1980's and full on in the 1990's. No foreign nation invaded. No wars were fought and lost. A more deviant force started to defeat the English from within. And dictate how they lived and disassemble that which had gone before. That is when the English started to feel the need to celebrate their patron saint. As defeated nations do. Very good post there and a totally different view, genetically the english have more continental dna compared to the irish, scotch and welsh, the english gave been attacked on thr southern coast for as long as we have recorded history, where we other home nations have the ancient celt and norse dna, until recently the english always changed more until the jet age, now we have been out crossed to camel jockeys and africans. England is too mixed up for peoples to care now as they have no loyalties to their host countries. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eastcoast 4,543 Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 21 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said: Very good post there and a totally different view, genetically the english have more continental dna compared to the irish, scotch and welsh, the english gave been attacked on thr southern coast for as long as we have recorded history, where we other home nations have the ancient celt and norse dna, until recently the english always changed more until the jet age, now we have been out crossed to camel jockeys and africans. England is too mixed up for peoples to care now as they have no loyalties to their host countries. Interesting post. I am English. I was born in England. I am a mix of English, Irish and a small part Scottish (thank God only a small part Scottish). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,303 Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 13 hours ago, eastcoast said: A left of field comment possibly but something that I have long thought to be true in regard to the English celebrating St. George's day. I am old enough to have seen changes in England. When I was young St. George's day was not celebrated. No one cared. It was not an issue. All the time that I have lived the Irish, Scots and Welsh have celebrated their patron saint's day. The English did not. The reason, in my opinion without wanting to offend anyone is this: The Irish, Scots and Welsh are defeated countries. Historically that cannot be argued with? Defeated by the English and in one form or the other forced to live under English rule in varying degrees spanning centuries. I am not defended the rights or wrongs of this. For one day a year they took the opportunity to put 2 fingers up to the English and embrace their own nationality by celebrating their patron saint. Far more complicated than that of course and more than one day a year in many cases but... The English never felt the need to do this. No one ever stopped them flying their flag or stopped them "being English". Until about the 1980's and full on in the 1990's. No foreign nation invaded. No wars were fought and lost. A more deviant force started to defeat the English from within. And dictate how they lived and disassemble that which had gone before. That is when the English started to feel the need to celebrate their patron saint. As defeated nations do. Fantastic post and one I totally agree with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,303 Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 21 minutes ago, baker boy said: Sad to think that the conquest of England and the rest of the British Isles will be fulfilled with barely a wimper Sadder still to think it was done by our own who we elected ! We have literally committed national suicide. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,810 Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 16 hours ago, Lenmcharristar said: Very good post there and a totally different view, genetically the english have more continental dna compared to the irish, scotch and welsh, the english gave been attacked on thr southern coast for as long as we have recorded history, where we other home nations have the ancient celt and norse dna, until recently the english always changed more until the jet age, now we have been out crossed to camel jockeys and africans. England is too mixed up for peoples to care now as they have no loyalties to their host countries. The sheep shaggers of the north are as genetically different to the sheep shaggers of the south than the English are to the Scots, they are not one people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 48,893 Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Greb147 said: The sheep shaggers of the north are as genetically different to the sheep shaggers of the south than the English are to the Scots, they are not one people. Sheep shaggers from the north been infiltrated by the Scousers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,810 Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: Sheep shaggers from the north been infiltrated by the Scousers This is not a recent phenomena. Those of southern Wales also have genetic differences within each other. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MH1 1,920 Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, Greb147 said: This is not a recent phenomena. Those of southern Wales also have genetic differences within each other. Swansea have an extra finger on each hand 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,810 Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 DNA study shows Celts are not a unique genetic group WWW.BBC.COM A DNA study of Britons shows that, genetically, there is not a unique Celtic group of people in the UK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 10,296 Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Greb147 said: DNA study shows Celts are not a unique genetic group WWW.BBC.COM A DNA study of Britons shows that, genetically, there is not a unique Celtic group of people in the UK. Yes straight out of the bbc book of diversity, theyd all say we were african , gay and muslim ffs 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,810 Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 Just now, Lenmcharristar said: Yes straight out of the bbc book of diversity, theyd all say we were african , gay and muslim ffs No, it really isn't, nothing to do with the BBC. And if you go back far enough then yes we were African. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 10,296 Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Greb147 said: No, it really isn't, nothing to do with the BBC. And if you go back far enough then yes we were African. How???? Sure the garden of eden was in Mesopotamia??? With the anunaki? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,810 Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said: How???? Sure the garden of eden was in Mesopotamia??? With the anunaki? Let's stick with science and genetic evidence hey, you should read up on anthropology. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 10,296 Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 Surely you evolutionists know that modern civilisation started in the middle east??? And we are menat to be african mixed with neanderthal, and the far east african mixed with denisovian? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,303 Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 25 minutes ago, Greb147 said: No, it really isn't, nothing to do with the BBC. And if you go back far enough then yes we were African. Speak for yourself Kunta Kinti ! Lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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