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[sandymere 8,263]

5 minutes ago, WILF said:

Next step is to start voting for politicians that actually care about Britain and its people, and that ain’t any of the major party’s in Westminster at the moment.

Who would that be?

[WILF 49,449]

Just now, kanny said:

100%

There’s a vacuum at the minute left by Farage imho, he obviously has zero interest in taking anything else forward.

But there is room I believe for a young, intelligent person to speak for Britain and for its people and actually start to call out the madness that nearly has the gaff dead.

We need a Jonny Mercer or Zac Goldsmith or a Tim Collins type to start that ball rolling. 

[WILF 49,449]

1 minute ago, sandymere said:

Who would that be?

Don’t know, the first step would be to vote for anyone but them and then see who emerges maybe ?

 

[sandymere 8,263]

22 minutes ago, WILF said:

Don’t know, the first step would be to vote for anyone but them and then see who emerges maybe ?

 

That would be a wasted vote, better to vote for a party that will support electoral reform, once we have that then the smaller parties will get proper representation and so opportunity to show their intentions to allow a better informed decision in the future.

[WILF 49,449]

Just now, sandymere said:

That would be a wasted vote, better to vote for a party that will support electoral reform, once we have that then the smaller parties will get proper representation and so opportunity to show their intentions to allow a better informed decision in the future.

Don’t disagree with that mate, can they be trusted to follow through on the promise though ?

Also, is there enough “noise” being made that would make the wider public put PR to the front of their mind and actually think it’s a good enough idea to vote for ? 
 

You know and I know that it’s all about “power” for the main party’s and they will cook the books anyway they can to make them the winners.

Voting for any party except “them” and destabilising their power base may also be another way ?

 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,728]

Absolute quality posts boys. 
 

I have a habit of keeping you tube rolling over in the background of playing a loop of politico / maths  these days as opposed to joe rogan and football . 
 

that James o Brian is the most condescending prat of all time , his show consists of “reap what you sow “ monologues against brexiteers and spilling “his truth “ to the masses . What you’ve said  here lads is the perfect antidote to his bilge 

[chartpolski 27,319]

3 hours ago, WILF said:

On the subject of Northern Ireland and Brexit.

I'm still waiting to see if it was the stupidest idea ever by the British government or the cleverest ?

Maybe they are forcing the EUs hand, after all, it’s them wanted the border but didn’t want to admit it.

If we take a lax attitude to NI ports then the EU will either have to swallow it or insist the Irish government put up a border in its own country !! 
The mask already slipped with article 16 which was quickly retracted.

The UK forcing the EU to show it’s true colours or a bunch of total arseholes that made an incredibly stupid political mistake ?........could easily be either, let’s wait and see.

I heard something interesting on a politics show this morning.

It was seriously being proposed that the border is moved from down the Irish Sea, and put in what was termed the Celtic sea; thereby putting the onus on the EU, and any goods coming from mainland E U into Eire would be subject to the same checks as goods moving from mainland Britain into Northern Ireland.

The EU is trying to marginalise Northern Ireland from Great Britain.......how would they, and the Irish, feel about Eire being marginalised from the rest of the E U ?

I think we all know the answer.......

Cheers.

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,728]

Just bang it right across south Armagh , job done . What’s the problem ? 

[WILF 49,449]

2 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Absolute quality posts boys. 
 

I have a habit of keeping you tube rolling over in the background of playing a loop of politico / maths  these days as opposed to joe rogan and football . 
 

that James o Brian is the most condescending prat of all time , his show consists of “reap what you sow “ monologues against brexiteers and spilling “his truth “ to the masses . What you’ve said  here lads is the perfect antidote to his bilge 

I’d batter that James OBrien senseless with his microphone live on air then just walk off.......

[dogmandont 10,060]

2 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Just bang it right across south Armagh , job done . What’s the problem ? 

Not happening

[kanny 21,537]

If the der de der de ders  don't want to be part of the diddly diddly dees  whats the problem?,  could you imagine the kerfuffle if we England told Scotland  and Wales  we are just going to be one big England

[WILF 49,449]

6 minutes ago, kanny said:

If the der de der de ders  don't want to be part of the diddly diddly dees  whats the problem?,  could you imagine the kerfuffle if we England told Scotland  and Wales  we are just going to be one big England

Seen the agro they are having in Cork & Limerick mate, I’d say having a few other white blokes here who share their language and genetics is the last of their worries these days.

[kanny 21,537]

4 minutes ago, WILF said:

Seen the agro they are having in Cork & Limerick mate, I’d say having a few other white blokes here who share their language and genetics is the last of their worries these days.

Seems to  me the most logical thing would be for the Republic to  ditch the EU   for  a trading partnership with  the rest  of the UK  and the angloshpear , problem solved  but unfortunately they seem to busy being bitter  not stout

[WILF 49,449]

1 minute ago, kanny said:

Seems to  me the most logical thing would be for the Republic to  ditch the EU   for  a trading partnership with  the rest  of the UK  and the angloshpear , problem solved  but unfortunately they seem to busy being bitter  not stout

They had a protectionist largely anti UK trading policy for 40 years after independence mate.

In those 40 years their economy grew by exactly ZERO percent.....for 40 years !!! 
 

The idea was to be self sufficient in industry, business, agriculture and everything else.....didn’t work.

The EU has invested vast sums into Ireland and just giving them just under another billion to make up for brexit.....wether that does the trick remains to be seen. 
 

What I can say is that you don’t see the amount of poverty here that you do in the UK, no food bank in every town here.

People are not car snobs but most people are driving a decent motor, nice houses, well kept.

Wages are decent.

How much of that is the EU and how much is Ireland I genuinely couldn’t tell you.

 

[WILF 49,449]

As an outsider this is how I see Ireland.

Ireland is a country of contradictions, and what I mean by that is this......

You will drive into a place and and every mile or half mile there will be some massive grand gaff, spotlessly clean.

Nice Mercs or Audi’s on the drive, about an acre of garden, the obligatory Toyota Land Cruiser sitting there as well.

Well kept little hamlets of houses, verges all cut by the residents......then, a town of derelict shops, a lovely old mini department store next to a wreck that hasn’t had a key in the door for 10 years.

Wonderful grand architecture from an age gone by, whole towns of the stuff, boarded up and empty......outside, in the parking spaces a new Range Rover or Q7 or a landcruiser pulling 12 grands worth of shiny Ifor Williams !

There will be a village with one garage shop and the best children’s playground you have ever seen in your life that would accommodate a town of thousands in the U.K. and which we just don’t have the like of in scale and in how it is kept spotlessly clean....like the day is was built ! .......and all this totally in the middle of nowhere ! 
 

Theres lots of the towns that are wrecked, empty shops wherever you look, while industrial estates stood empty, giant hotels all empty........and yet there is a sense that everyone is doing OK.
 

Socially, I can only say that from what I have seen think England after the war but with modern things......it’s blinding

People are nice to each other, just normal really.....a normality sadly lacking in British towns and cities.

I drove down to Wicklow last Saturday and it was amazing as you drive down, fine farmland, old English estate houses and all the old buildings of the town to match, old rail stations from the time of the empire complete with clock tower and fancy copper domes.....like a snapshot of days gone by.

I said to my daughter, if this was England all this would be housing estates !! 
The Irish want no part of Britain and I can see why, but I think an element of practicality should be exhibited and put aside the “Just hating on the English” stuff.