Talking Of Millwall And All That ....

[Gypsydog94 4,708]

1 hour ago, sid g said:

it was at its peak imo in the 70`s early 80s and you can read as many books as you like but you had to be around at the time to know what it was all about same as northern soul , two tone and punk ,, 

To many people running around with blades now. 

[Dougieboy 250]

8 minutes ago, Gypsydog94 said:

To many people running around with blades now. 

I was at the local shops a few weeks back, load of young lads jumped out Of car with Guns, all the local lads legged it down the street. Oh the joys hey. Little Wankers who couldn’t fight a common cold, held in the highest regards because they can carry and use a weapon. 

[WILF 50,316]

4 minutes ago, Dougieboy said:

I was at the local shops a few weeks back, load of young lads jumped out Of car with Guns, all the local lads legged it down the street. Oh the joys hey. Little Wankers who couldn’t fight a common cold, held in the highest regards because they can carry and use a weapon. 

Can I ask where abouts in the country that was mate ?

[Dougieboy 250]

Just now, WILF said:

Can I ask where abouts in the country that was mate ?

Black Country Wilf, Birmingham is rife with Guns now. We’re more Americanised than America

[Greb147 6,810]

24 minutes ago, Gypsydog94 said:

To many people running around with blades now. 

That tells you everything. You have to be the lowest of the low to walk around tooled up. 

Anyone see that video on Twitter the other day of that lad getting stabbed? 

The lad had trouble with about 5 of them and god bless him he was a game lad, he fought all 5 off and then one of the cowardly rats stabbed him in the stomach. 

This is how brave the poor lad was, he chased after the fcukers whilst he was bleeding out. 

I hope the lads family kill the cnut when he gets out of the slammer. 

Edited December 9, 2020 by Greb147

[FLATTOP 5,239]

7 hours ago, WILF said:

One interesting thing that I’m sure a few lads know is that Millwall is actually in East London, on the isle of dogs to be exact.

Its just Millwall football club that is in south London, they moved over there in the early 1900s 

Nicely pointed out Wilf they are an East End Club that sadly went south of the river the Thames that is for my northern brethren,

As I’ve said before I was brought up on the Isle of Dogs where we had the Millwall dock and if you lived there long enough ago there was signs dotted about the island saying Millwall my grandad was an ardent Millwall fan and if you speak to any old timer on the island they still call it Millwall.

Another little thing that maybe some don’t know is the opening map on East Enders is the Isle of Dogs.

heres a few facts 

https://www.millwallfc.co.uk/club/club-history/

 

[WILF 50,316]

9 minutes ago, Dougieboy said:

Black Country Wilf, Birmingham is rife with Guns now. We’re more Americanised than America

I somehow knew you were going to say that area mate.  

[hambone 950]

1 hour ago, Greb147 said:

Each to their own but that mob mentality has never attracted me. 

I know of a few local lads who were in Leeds and Barnsley firms, just never seen the attraction. 

I'm the same never understood the whole "hard in a gang mentality". Having said that i have no interest in football and never been to a match 

[Gypsydog94 4,708]

1 hour ago, Greb147 said:

That tells you everything. You have to be the lowest of the low to walk around tooled up. 

Anyone see that video on Twitter the other day of that lad getting stabbed? 

The lad had trouble with about 5 of them and god bless him he was a game lad, he fought all 5 off and then one of the cowardly rats stabbed him in the stomach. 

This is how brave the poor lad was, he chased after the fcukers whilst he was bleeding out. 

I hope the lads family kill the cnut when he gets out of the slammer. 

My father always warned me when started going to the pub etc. When he grew up he said you knew the hard b*****ds and to get on with them as they would have your back. Nowadays you could give a jumped up prick a slap walk out the pub and blade stuck in you or brick round the head. There cowards who have never been told no! 

[gnasher16 31,506]

The football thing was just a culture that young lads got into back then,boys/men fight whether its school against school,boys club against boys club or estate against estate it was all about standing up for your friends and your area which in turn tended to also be your football club....obviously like most silly things you do when you're young its all very embarrassing now looking back but they were fun days where you learned a lot about yourself and those around you.....at the time i hated Millwall with a passion but looking back i can acknowledge that they had some exceptionally tough uncompromising lads who were not willing to let each other down....which was essentially what it was all about it wasnt  about winning or losing it was about standing your ground regardless of the scenario.....i can only speak for West Ham but we had several different factions to our mob,amongst others there was the old Mile End mob who just had a reputation for being out and out lunatics,then you had Bill Gardiners lot,Cass Pennants little mob,Swallows,Hoxton Tom,Binnsys little under 5's we were all out for a good time only some took it a little bit more serious than others and wanted things run like an army unit which was just going a bit silly.....it was just a laugh for many of us thats all......i still have the odd natter to old man Gardiner now his book/interviews are the only ones ive seen that i would say are honest although i probably have a soft spot for Bill as he was the only man in my life ive ever been afraid of he just had a presence and an aura about him that as a 15/16 year old kid bothered and impressed me in equal measures.....Millwall had the same types of characters and much as the rivalry is still as hot as ever for us older chaps its something we just look back on with fondness and a little twinkle of the eye now....again,different times.

Edited December 10, 2020 by gnasher16

[Blackmag 6,382]

14 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

The football thing was just a culture that young lads got into back then,boys/men fight whether its school against school,boys club against boys club or estate against estate it was all about standing up for your friends and your area which in turn tended to also be your football club....obviously like most silly things you do when you're young its all very embarrassing now looking back but they were fun days where you learned a lot about yourself and those around you.....at the time i hated Millwall with a passion but looking back i can acknowledge that they had some exceptionally tough uncompromising lads who were not willing to let each other down....which was essentially what it was all about it wasnt  about winning or losing it was about standing your ground regardless of the scenario.....i can only speak for West Ham but we had several different factions to our mob,amongst others there was the old Mile End mob who just had a reputation for being out and out lunatics,then you had Bill Gardiners lot,Cass Pennants little mob,Swallows,Hoxton Tom,Binnsys little under 5's we were all out for a good time only some took it a little bit more serious than others and wanted things run like an army unit which was just going a bit silly.....it was just a laugh for many of us thats all......i still have the odd natter to old man Gardiner now his book/interviews are the only ones ive seen that i would say are honest although i probably have a soft spot for Bill as he was the only man in my life ive ever been afraid of he just had a presence and an aura about him that as a 15/16 year old kid bothered and impressed me in equal measures.....Millwall had the same types of characters and much as the rivalry is still as hot as ever for us older chaps its something we just look back on with fondness and a little twinkle of the eye now....again,different times.

I totally agree with that

Edited December 11, 2020 by Blackmag

[Ken's Deputy 4,462]

Just for the record here, lads? I've bought and paid for the scholarly book, mentioned above. That'll be in the post, in due course. God knows how I'm gonna read it! My glasses are completely out of date now.

Millwall Memoires one? Kindle? FFS! Of course, I've got this vile fukking Linux now! Kindle's fukked, on this. Had to send the damn 'book' back, without ever having seen it

Could grab a paper copy, of course. But, my eyes .....

[gnasher16 31,506]

15 hours ago, Ken's Deputy said:

Just for the record here, lads? I've bought and paid for the scholarly book, mentioned above. That'll be in the post, in due course. God knows how I'm gonna read it! My glasses are completely out of date now.

Millwall Memoires one? Kindle? FFS! Of course, I've got this vile fukking Linux now! Kindle's fukked, on this. Had to send the damn 'book' back, without ever having seen it

Could grab a paper copy, of course. But, my eyes .....

Have a little listen to this ol boy Ken....its a nice little interview,no lies and bullshit like most of them....it'll give you a better idea of what it was all about....good ol chap Bill 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbIYKalA624

 

 

Edited December 11, 2020 by gnasher16

[Ken's Deputy 4,462]

Christ, he must have been terrifying, in his prime!

What was that that so upset him, in the latter part there, Gnash? He was the last person out of the ground ....? My hearing, see? I bloody struggle at the best of times. Probably lucky to hear half of what I listen to. Pity I can't lip read, like him!

[WILF 50,316]

1 hour ago, gnasher16 said:

Have a little listen to this ol boy Ken....its a nice little interview,no lies and bullshit like most of them....it'll give you a better idea of what it was all about....good ol chap Bill 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbIYKalA624

 

 

Do you know what, I have never read any of his books or heard the bloke talk beyond the odd sound bite here and there.

I absolutely loved that, forget the football.

For me he hit the nail in the head when he said “it’s the people”, I can’t put my finger on it or express it but it was a feeling as much as football.

All the silly little rituals and those things.

Seems silly to repeat it now, but my boy said to me the other morning “I have never been to the new ground Dad and I’m not that bothered because it wouldn’t be the same”

6 years since that young boy was ever at the hammers so where did he pick that up from ?.......he can only have felt it himself when we was having a cup of tea in the cafe or walking round the queens market.

In fact it was funny that Bill mentions it stinking because my boy said exactly the same the first time he went !

Good video mate