Tyson/Jones. Dubious/ Joyce

[Lenmcharristar 10,296]

On 03/12/2020 at 16:59, jukel123 said:

I blame his corner for not either pulling him out earlier, or not throwing in the towel when he sank to one knee.They should have known his state of mind and looked out for him.

There's a code in boxing which says you never quit but I would rather see a fighter admitting he's had enough than see him brain damaged, blind or dead.

There's no shame in tapping out in UFC, or a rugby player coming off injured. Why should boxing be different?. We've all got quit in us. We shouldn't expect our boxers to be maimed or killed for the sake of macho pride whilst we sit on our arses and applaud.

I think the lad has a big future in the game, I hope he comes back and proves his critics wrong.

Except for marciano

[Lenmcharristar 10,296]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

Don't think he's scared of jabs mate, he ate them the whole fight.  Couldn't believe why his corner didn't figure out a way for him to avoid the majority of those jabs.

Yes he blocked them with his face, hes defo not afraid haha

[gnasher16 31,506]

On 03/12/2020 at 16:59, jukel123 said:

I blame his corner for not either pulling him out earlier, or not throwing in the towel when he sank to one knee.They should have known his state of mind and looked out for him.

There's a code in boxing which says you never quit but I would rather see a fighter admitting he's had enough than see him brain damaged, blind or dead.

There's no shame in tapping out in UFC, or a rugby player coming off injured. Why should boxing be different?. We've all got quit in us. We shouldn't expect our boxers to be maimed or killed for the sake of macho pride whilst we sit on our arses and applaud.

I think the lad has a big future in the game, I hope he comes back and proves his critics wrong.

Why should the corner of pulled him out of a fight he was winning just because he had a swollen eye ?

You may of heard Martin saying around the 4th round " This is the fight game ".....what he meant is this is the reality of conversations they have had many many times as Daniel has always been mentally fragile.....but that doesnt mean he cant and wont win fights.

Saying theres nothing wrong with quitting is a fans mentality,not a fighters.....its what separates the two.

[jukel123 9,424]

Everybody has a quitting point both in life and in fights. I would die for certain things like my family. But if I was in a fight and continuing was hopless or too painful or too dangerous for my future health. I would say 'yep I've had enough' .If people said I was a quitter or a coward they can say or think what they want. Everybody has their level and their quitting point. I don't believe all these hard men who say they would never quit under any circumstances. I honestly don't admire a man who is willing to die in the ring,I think he's a fool. There are things worth dying for, but not a boxing match..Jmho.

Edited December 5, 2020 by jukel123

[Greyman 31,762]

30 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Everybody has a quitting point both in life and in fights. I would die for certain things like my family. But if I was in a fight and continuing was hopless or too painful or too dangerous for my future health. I would sat yep I've had enough .If people said I was a quitter or a coward they can say or think what they want. Everybody has their level and their quitting point. I honestly don't admire a man who is willing to die in the ring,I think he's a fool. There are things worth dying for, but not a boxing match..Jmho.

But that’s not a thought process you would have the luxury of in the ring, taking a knee in the ring is an option but in most fights you would get your head kicked off, it’s not a conscious decision it’s how your mind tells you to behave in combat, if your hurt you go harder to get the person doing the hurt out of there, or so your mind tells you   

[gnasher16 31,506]

5 hours ago, jukel123 said:

Everybody has a quitting point both in life and in fights. I would die for certain things like my family. But if I was in a fight and continuing was hopless or too painful or too dangerous for my future health. I would say 'yep I've had enough' .If people said I was a quitter or a coward they can say or think what they want. Everybody has their level and their quitting point. I don't believe all these hard men who say they would never quit under any circumstances. I honestly don't admire a man who is willing to die in the ring,I think he's a fool. There are things worth dying for, but not a boxing match..Jmho.

And thats why you're not a fighter.....its nothing to do with being a " hard man " its just competitive spirit Michael Watson didnt almost take his death to prove he was a hard man ( or the many other ring casualties ) he/they did it because their sheer fighting will to win wouldnt allow them to do anything different......its not something the average man in the street should be expected to comprehend so no point getting too deep into it 

[Greb147 6,810]

What was your record Gnash and did you fight any prospects? 

[fireman 11,393]

7 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

And thats why you're not a fighter.....its nothing to do with being a " hard man " its just competitive spirit Michael Watson didnt almost take his death to prove he was a hard man ( or the many other ring casualties ) he/they did it because their sheer fighting will to win wouldnt allow them to do anything different......its not something the average man in the street should be expected to comprehend so no point getting too deep into it 

I believe it's a dna thing and a natural thing that is dealt to you as a embryo,same as why do folk get a calling to hunt,to farm or grow things,to care and help people etc etc.All ways and things for a human tribe to survive,warriors to protect,hunters to feed along with the farming growing types, carers to nurse and look after us etc etc, all tribal and the same with any animal that lives in a group,herd,pack etc all different types of sorts are born to cover all the natural needs of survival.Every litter of dogs has a  hunter, catcher, hard dog, general worker and a mouthy fecker(to warn the pack of danger)  to cover what is needed in a pack and i think folk are the same,so if DD hasn't got the heart to be a real warrior he never will have imo ..A few of us on here will have a go as such but very few can take it all the way when the odds ain't going your way and to over ride that i must survive instinct and keep yourself driven on,i know i ain't got it as i once tried to help a lad out in a pub when he was very very out numbered and he ended up bolting and i was left facing around 18 pissed up pissed off lads with pool cues.i tried my best but it wasn't long before i was down and i knew they were going to kill me,maybe not on purpose but the old nogging was taking some fine mighty shots and mob mentality was running high,i tried my best that day but i just curled up as survival mode took over and i just couldn't rise to me feet. I'm old enough and seen enough in my life to accept what i can do and what i can't do as it's a natural selection and i know i'm a hunter first and cannon fodder second,it's the way mother nature chose for me and i am cool with it but some do try to be what there not...