jigsaw 11,902 Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 An email sent into the minister this evening after wexford coursing clubs normal Sunday delaing with lurcher. Dear Minister O'Brien and Junior Minister Noonan, On the day that all coursing clubs released their hares back into the wild on foot of an instruction from your department, I would ask you to reconsider based on what is actually happening on the ground. To give you some background, we (Wexford & District) are a small coursing club based in the very south east corner of the county. Our preserves go primarily along the coast from Rosslare Harbour to Kilmore Quay. Over the last number of years our preserves have been under constant attack from illegal hunters. They not only kill hares by the dozen, they also cause considerable stress and financial loss to the farmers, horse breeders and the general public in the area. To tackle this issue, last year our coursing club set up a communication network between the land owners, ourselves and the guards to keep watch over our preserves. Any illegal hunting is now reported to us and we liaise with the guards. Today was the day all coursing clubs had to release all hares as instructed by your department. The department said "clearly wild hares .... are better off in the wild". When you read the account of my day I hope that you will reconsider this statement. At 9.30am I contacted Wexford Garda Station to report 5 males with dogs (Dark Blue Toyota Avensis 10 D 31975) in the land near Tacumshane. The land owner is a breeder of race horses and has lost several mares in foal due to the illegal hunting on his land. The guards came but illegal hunters had moved on. At 10.30am I contacted the station again. 4 males with dogs (White Transit Van 06 WX 6976) killed a hare in a farmers yard in Kilmore Quay. When the farmer approached them they threw the hare back at him. He doesn't want to pursue this with the guards as his neighbour was severely beaten by illegal hunters a few years back. At 11am I contacted the station for a third time. 4 males with dogs were spotted in our main preserve in Kilmore Quay (Orange Mazda 07 LH 754). The guards came but the illegal hunters fled across the land. They abandoned the car and it was still there at 5 pm. As the car is parked on private property, the guards can only remove it if the land owner reports it. However, the land owner is too afraid following a beating he received 2 years ago. The guards were very helpful and did as much as they could. I also rang the two NPWS officers for the area, Mr. Tony Murray and Mr. Dominic Berridge. Neither of them answered the phone or returned my call. It is hardly a coincidence that the illegal hunters were out in force on the very day that we had to release the hares. In the afternoon, I helped out with another local coursing club to examine, vaccinate and dose hares that had been securely held for their upcoming meeting. They were then released in accordance with your department's instructions. Can you honestly believe that these hares will be safer tomorrow out in the land than they were yesterday? Yours sincerely Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 'Proper f****d?' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,864 Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 .....and wait for all the replies from 'ordinary dog men' about how it's all so unfair that they are victimised and if only our tiny islands were like America where everyone can do as they please then we wouldn't have a hunting ban Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel_Basher 17,102 Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 Hang on a minute .....Grasses within the running dog community ,must be reading that wrong surely . Dogmen dont grass do they unfuckinbelieveable 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 17,168 Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 f***ing dry there eyes 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,988 Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 Better running free than sat in a cage 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 31,824 Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, DIDO.1 said: .....and wait for all the replies from 'ordinary dog men' about how it's all so unfair that they are victimised and if only our tiny islands were like America where everyone can do as they please then we wouldn't have a hunting ban Wait up has someone banned hunting 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 31,824 Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 The land and game should be for everyone, hares are wild animals and belong to no man, don’t no how things work over there but here it was all a bit snobby anyway, I got shot for coursing a hare on brean down coursing club years ago and when my mate managed to join it years later he was asked to leave after a year as his dog nailed everything and cleaned up all the silver ware, they all stood there cheering and clapping every time the hare escaped, very strange non inclusive group of people that just wanted everything for themselves in my opinion, if you let a few local lads join your coursing club they might not feel the urge to poach the back out of it and if they did you would no who they were, it’s human nature for a man to want what he can’t have, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FOXHUNTER 5,021 Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 hours ago, foxdropper said: Hang on a minute .....Grasses within the running dog community ,must be reading that wrong surely . Dogmen dont grass do they unfuckinbelieveable You couldn't write it could you ....hilarious 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,344 Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 47 minutes ago, baker boy said: Mate I dont think this is even coursing except in name only, captured hares loosed for muzzled dogs to chase around for a couple of mins, nah It’s greyhound coursing mate and yes, it’s as you describe. Like most clubs it’s all a bit snooty etc I was chatting to a bloke from the Irish Coursing Club in their tent at a massive agricultural show they have here called “The Ploughing Championship”, he was a nice enough lad but the traveller boys were in there absolutely having his eyes out mate watching a video they had playing.......it’s was pretty funny. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 10,060 Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 4 hours ago, foxdropper said: Hang on a minute .....Grasses within the running dog community ,must be reading that wrong surely . Dogmen dont grass do they unfuckinbelieveable Coursing clubs in Ireland have fcuk all in common with real dog lads and definitely nothing in common with hunting folks. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 Its pretty much just a sprint race for a couple of oversized hounds and a drag would do as well, then they could leave the hares on the ground for people to run open field coursing. Put a Brown hare in front of them and it would be through the blind before they were slipped. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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