Cull leak

[villaman 9,982]

Badger cull leak 

https://innocentbadger.com/2020/08/14/badger-cull-leaks-reveal-killers-and-new-zones/

[Stavross 18,359]

Very dangerous people, they have no idea about the management of this land and all they see is someone’s shooting fluffy. The people carrying out this work should be able to do so safely but due to people’s incompetence they now have the worry of some nut job turning up at their home

[Alsone 789]

That needs passing to police complaints and information commissioners office, as it's surely got to be someone within the Firearms Licensing System for Devon and Cornwall Police, that's leaking the information as there's no other way they'd have the FAC numbers. It could be a hack, but presumably that would be detected and you'd like to think the police national computer was more secure than that. So my money's on a leak straight from the Police database which is an offence in itself.

 

Edited August 17, 2020 by Alsone

[shovel leaner 7,650]

They are getting desperate. The cull has rolled out over most of the country now . There are only a handful of these people out there and for all their threats and shouting and screaming, unsolicited telephone calls , and hate mail . They actually do nothing, I don’t know anyone involved in the cull who has been physically hurt by them . It’s all wind and piss .

      If they turn up where culling is being carried out then the culling stops for that night , but that’s it , they can’t be everywhere and it will just take place the following night or the night after . They have lost . Badgers are being culled and will continue to be culled and eventually the science will show that it is working to reduce bovine TB .
 

[Sausagedog 7,381]

A motorcyclist was knocked off by people who think more of badgers than humans near here and they didn't stop!

They are deranged crazies.

[lllluke1 329]

Has anyone contacted anybody on the list and let them know?  I would be straight on to my FEO if my name was on the list

[Baldcoot 2,352]

The cull worked here, badger, munty,wabbit, high seat, .

These anti aresoles ,refuse to acknowledge well Ireland put them on the general license in 67 ,Tb cases dwindled away.

They are wild dogs that rip lambs ,hedgehogs, rabbit kits and all else to pieces for food. 

Only in chlis,s fantasy world do they eat tofu and help old ladies across the road.

[philpot 5,099]

The issue as always is that the anti brigade, taking bovine TB out of the equasion for a moment,  have no idea of the damage to wildlife that the badger causes but through Cwis and his band, the antis will believe them rather than the harsh facts that are the case with badgers.  It is about time that a different and factual report needs bringing to the public eye about the damage badgers do................................................but I guess the vast majority of public would not believe our little striped friend could possibly be anything other than cuddly.

Phil

[Alsone 789]

There's probably some justification for protection away from dairy farms, as it's always a balance between one species and another. However, it's quite clear in dairy farm areas, that badgers are a big problem.

It's the denial Phil that's always the problem. One overlooked fact is the biggest killers of birds in this country are domestic cats, something that gets constantly overlooked by the anti's who probably go home at night to houses stuffed full of cuddly little felines. Estimates put cat related deaths at over several billion birds and small mammals a year in the USA and over 100 million prey items and 27 million song birds in the UK. Yet it's the UK's most prolific pet:

https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/advice/gardening-for-wildlife/animal-deterrents/cats-and-garden-birds/are-cats-causing-bird-declines/#:~

Yet it seems even the RSPB is in denial.

"Despite the large numbers of birds killed by cats in gardens, there is no clear scientific evidence that such mortality is causing bird populations to decline. This may be surprising, but many millions of birds die naturally every year, mainly through starvation, disease or other forms of predation. There is evidence that cats tend to take weak or sickly birds."

Personally, I've seen a few birds caught by cats, and have never seen one that hasn't looked healthy. In fact I've rescued a few wood pigeons out of the clutches of cats over the years that went on to fly over in a prefectly healthy and vigorous manner.

Like everything, it's all about balance but in my opinion, there's definately evidence in favour of control around dairy farms.

Edited August 18, 2020 by Alsone

[philpot 5,099]

1 hour ago, Alsone said:

Like everything, it's all about balance but in my opinion, there's definately evidence in favour of control around dairy farms.

Badgers are a menace in chicken farms causing many deaths to live stock and even wooden chicken sheds, just ask the farms near me.

Phil

[Alsone 789]

4 hours ago, philpot said:

Badgers are a menace in chicken farms causing many deaths to live stock and even wooden chicken sheds, just ask the farms near me.

Phil

Mybe but I don't think you can justify the total extermination of a species just because it causes damage. Otherwise you might as well extinct all the pigeons, crows, rooks, deer, rabbits, hares etc from the UK in which case you'd unbalance the coutryside and have nthing left to control. There's a justification for exterminating badgers in some areas local to dairy or chicken farms. However, I don't think you can or should be trying to justify a total extermination.

[Stavross 18,359]

No one wants to see badgers wiped out but they should be controlled, over population of any animal is never a good thing ( humans are a prime example of that ) I have some land that I won’t shoot foxes on because they are not there in large numbers and it would be a terrible shame to never see another fox, the badger has become an apex predator and allowing it to breed without control will only have a detrimental effect on the countryside, off the top of my head the only animal I can think of that I’d like to see wiped out is the grey tree rat 

[philpot 5,099]

32 minutes ago, Alsone said:

Mybe but I don't think you can justify the total extermination of a species just because it causes damage. Otherwise you might as well extinct all the pigeons, crows, rooks, deer, rabbits, hares etc from the UK in which case you'd unbalance the coutryside and have nthing left to control. There's a justification for exterminating badgers in some areas local to dairy or chicken farms. However, I don't think you can or should be trying to justify a total extermination.

Who said anything about total extermination, I certainly did not......

Phil

[Pirate 9000 676]

Alsone could not agree with what you have said more it's well understood in the dairy industry that the skin test is no where near accurate,and farms being given the all clear to sell surplus stock in the markets have still got TB infection in their herds, farmers need an end to TB but every one now knows this is never going to achieve this, they should be pushing a head with vaccination of all cattle,and a sensible control of the badger population and not a wipe out which will damage farmers and shooter's in the long term.

[FOXHUNTER 5,021]

3 hours ago, philpot said:

Who said anything about total extermination, I certainly did not......

Phil

Exactly it's not about extermination but population control. Nobody wants to see the eradication of any species as they all have their niche in the ecosystem.  It is arguable regarding invasive non indigenous species but they provide the hunter with great sport.