Arizona Cattle Dogs

[colliejohn 840]

1 hour ago, Neal said:

It wasn't in the book I was thinking of, so it may have been on the accompanying dvd, but I checked online and it was 4%. I expect it was a case of just enough to make them more drought resistant but not enough for any negative attributes to come through...helped along by the fact that they certainly didn't keep anything which didn't work out. I think there's more in heelers though.

Best post on here for a long time, very interesting. Regards Collie John.

[Neal 1,788]

15 hours ago, colliejohn said:

Best post on here for a long time, very interesting. Regards Collie John.

Wow! Thanks Collie John. Praise indeed. 

There was a lot of stuff online last year disproving the dingo theory which claimed there was none in the kelpie DNA. However, I read that this research has been discredited by some quarters. Interestingly, just after this, my wife bought me a book (I can't remember what it's called off hand) about the evolution of dogs. Although it was concerned largely with dog DNA it was actually written by a a scientist with a background in human DNA. He was saying how it can be tested in two different ways and that each won't necessarily pick up on traits from either the male or female line (I think I've got that right). I presume that's why there's been the discrepancy i.e. anything inherited by mitochondrial DNA would only be through the female line. Does that make sense?

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[jigsaw 11,809]

anyone remember the book written on the kelpie in australia by a man that kept and bred them for decades,i think he was suffering from cancer in the latter stages of finishing his book,cant recall the details of either author or book

[Neal 1,788]

Was it Mike Donelan? Small book, more like an extended pamphlet?

There's a black and white photo of him on the cover, if it's the one I'm thinking of. He owned the Bullenbong Stud...I think.

Edited July 19, 2020 by Neal
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[jigsaw 11,809]

1 hour ago, Neal said:

Was it Mike Donelan? Small book, more like an extended pamphlet?

There's a black and white photo of him on the cover, if it's the one I'm thinking of. He owned the Bullenbong Stud...I think.

Thought it was a substantial book, they made a documentary on the man and his work too, maybe on YouTube.. Deffo on youtube

[jigsaw 11,809]

This is it I reckon, anyone ever have it

[Neal 1,788]

Ah, that's Tony Parsons; yeah I've got that book. You need strong arms to read it as it's several hundred pages long. Full of very wise words though. Sorry Jigsaw, I misread your original post and assumed you meant he'd died of cancer since writing the book so discounted Tony Parsons as he's still alive. He no longer has the Karrawarra stud though. Most (if not all) decent kelpies in the world go back to his dogs sooner or later. My current two are line bred to dogs bred by him. I think the book is actually an updated version of three of his previous books combined plus some extra material. It's very expensive but definitely worth it...mine was a Christmas present from my mother-in-law about nine years ago...not your usual mother-in-law!

[Neal 1,788]

1 hour ago, Balaur said:

Alpine dingos , never heard of them before.....

https://www.ladbible.com/news/latest-ultra-rare-pure-bred-alpine-dingo-puppy-discovered-in-australia-20200922

I could be wrong but I think Alpine dingoes are simply "ordinary" dingoes which have evolved a thicker coat due to living in the Australian Alps. I'm happy to be corrected though.