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2 hours ago, dillydog said:

Walk, walk, walk and then walk some more, there's no legislation on walking,  even if you're caught out snooping about on private land man up and ask for permission to hunt the land.

I'll tell you exactly how I got 90% of my land  bear in mind that times were different back then and although immoral it wasn't illegal. 

I'd walk anyone's land I wanted to  it added to the experience  😂🙈

I'd find a nice fox earth and crack on and dig it, no harm done. On the odd occasion a farmer or land owner did come to me the conversation went something like this 

"WHO'S TOLD YOU, YOU CAN COME ON HERE ?"

God

"WHAT THE f**k ARE YOU ON ABOUT,  I OWN THIS LAND !"

No you don't,  God owns it, it was here before you and it'll be here after you, all you own is a piece of paper that says it's yours in this lifetime. 

"YOU'RE A CHEEKY c**t"

Yes but I'm here and the dogs in, what's the problem  ?

"f***ing ASK NEXT TIME"

Which is your farm then, hello my names .........😂

If you tried that on some of the farmers I know they would arrange it so that you could personally meet God that day 😂😂

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4 hours ago, dillydog said:

Walk, walk, walk and then walk some more, there's no legislation on walking,  even if you're caught out snooping about on private land man up and ask for permission to hunt the land.

I'll tell you exactly how I got 90% of my land  bear in mind that times were different back then and although immoral it wasn't illegal. 

I'd walk anyone's land I wanted to  it added to the experience  😂🙈

I'd find a nice fox earth and crack on and dig it, no harm done. On the odd occasion a farmer or land owner did come to me the conversation went something like this 

"WHO'S TOLD YOU, YOU CAN COME ON HERE ?"

God

"WHAT THE f**k ARE YOU ON ABOUT,  I OWN THIS LAND !"

No you don't,  God owns it, it was here before you and it'll be here after you, all you own is a piece of paper that says it's yours in this lifetime. 

"YOU'RE A CHEEKY c**t"

Yes but I'm here and the dogs in, what's the problem  ?

"f***ing ASK NEXT TIME"

Which is your farm then, hello my names .........😂

Don’t take this the wrong way, as I’ve done similar and I think you’re a decent bloke. But that kind of chat with some of the farmers I know and they’d just think you were a massive bell end.

Ivr been caught similar on land I wasn’t meant to pre ban and just said, look, dogs lined a fox to here and I’m killing this fox as it’s killing lambs in area etc. Just unfortunate it’s ended up on your patch, sorry if it’s a bother.

And usually they just let you crack on. 

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No offense taken, I didn't give two fucks, I knew the law and at the time it was on my side, I was one of the test cases when they tried to bring in the law of digging without permission,  it got kicked out if court but they eventually got it passed.

At the time there was no law against taking vermin,  damaging land or property yes, but not actually taking vermin like fox.

I didn't have anyone to learn from and it showed.

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Used to be a law that said you could follow a hunted animal wherever  it took you and deal with it within reason .

Used same law years ago to get us out a sticky situation when lurchers and terrier running free ran a fox onto National trust ground and we found the lurchers marking an earth .Luckily terrier was collared up with the old Deben and we made a start only to get caught by some busy body who phoned the law saying it was a badger sette .We broke through to a fox just as we got swarmed on by coppers, chopper in the valley ,the lot .Arrested ,de arrested and on our way all on the same day .Looking back it was lucky as there was both in and dog could of found either .

If your truly set on working terriers mate you will find a way ,with or without a mentor or any advice on here .

 

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Coonhound hunters here will generally trespass before the hunt is over.Quote from my old man" Son it's easier to get forgiveness than permission" 

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4 hours ago, sid g said:

i always found it hard to reason with a farmer with a 12 bore but you soon find a way ...

Try reasoning with a farmer with a  gun when your a hippy traveller and you've just been caught with a terrier to ground or a running dog and running dog caught quarry,:doh: been in a few emotional situ's but never got nicked and never got a hiding either.Come to think of it i never got permission from any of them either,but not that iv'e ever wondered why :laugh:, i lived with folks who were mostly anti's and the land owners were very anti me but iv'e never been one to follow fashion so i just cracked on doing my thing and had some fun doing it to :victory:..

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Think the o.p needs to tread carefully, the old saying "Don't run before you can walk," springs to mind.

Learn the basics first before starting looking for earth's is the best advice I could give. 👍

Cheers, D.

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It's alright having the earths it's finding the buggers in them that's the problem places I go I reckon the foxes must be tree dwelling hippys 🤣

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The only people your going to get permission for digging foxes around here is Pheasant shoots and your not getting that unless your a beater. There are two other types of farmer, ones that don't like hunting and killing in general and one that go hunting, none of these two will give you permission.

So my suggestion would be go beating for one or two shoots get in with the keepers and they will put you on the Fox.

Cheers Arry

 

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