riohog 5,920 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, TOMO said: I agree with abortion.....but 28 weeks does seem high.....I know I'm being pedantic here but 28 weeks is 6 and a half months......not that it makes it ok just out of intrest what is the limit here in England is it the same....?? THING IS TOMO DEAD IS DEAD 1 WEEK OR 20 YEARS MAKES NO MATTER 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 3,038 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, TOMO said: I agree with abortion.....but 28 weeks does seem high.....I know I'm being pedantic here but 28 weeks is 6 and a half months......not that it makes it ok just out of intrest what is the limit here in England is it the same....?? 24 weeks in England and wales and 28 weeks in exceptional circumstances the same as northern Ireland Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,416 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Francie said: Yes kev upto 28 weeks, 7 months, ffs I was born at 6months premature. I just said to my mrs " did you know a baby can survive being born at 3 months "....she said " dont be ridiculous course they cant ".....Its then i realised you meant born at 6 months The benders getting married is disgusting,ridiculous,obscene......any words you want to choose.......abortion though ive never been sure about that one,but at 28 weeks bloody hell no way !! Edited October 24, 2019 by gnasher16 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 13,425 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 Who ever agrees with it has something wrong in there head... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 3,038 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 Just now, lurcherman 887 said: Who ever agrees with it has something wrong in there head... well it's been like that in England and wales since 1967 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,920 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, greg64 said: well it's been like that in England and wales since 1967 and they have been coming over here since ,,, or before !!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,895 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 hours ago, fireman said: And if people saw the piles of bodies and the suffering that some have undergone in the quest for oil they'd not be sitting in their cars with the engines ticking over to keep the heaters on either.....But it keeps cold folk warm eh... Valid point mate but as the saying go’s, two wrongs don’t make a right do they. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 31,500 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 I don’t agree or disagree and I would like to walk a mile in a mans shoes before I condemn him but as I can’t fall pregnant carry a baby or have an abortion I feel I have no right to condemn anyone that has to make this awful decision, I also feel that Francie is exhibiting foe anger on religious grounds and should just mind his own business and wind his neck in unless it has a direct affect on him or a close family member, it’s not a subject many take lightly and certainly not one for a load of hairy arsed blokes to decide the outcome, I have the greatest sympathy for any woman that has to decide on this and don’t think any of our personal feelings or opinions matter one jot, sorry but that’s how I see it 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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WILF 49,895 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 40 minutes ago, Greyman said: I don’t agree or disagree and I would like to walk a mile in a mans shoes before I condemn him but as I can’t fall pregnant carry a baby or have an abortion I feel I have no right to condemn anyone that has to make this awful decision, I also feel that Francie is exhibiting foe anger on religious grounds and should just mind his own business and wind his neck in unless it has a direct affect on him or a close family member, it’s not a subject many take lightly and certainly not one for a load of hairy arsed blokes to decide the outcome, I have the greatest sympathy for any woman that has to decide on this and don’t think any of our personal feelings or opinions matter one jot, sorry but that’s how I see it I don’t really agree with that mate, I don’t think you have to have experience of something to hold an opinion. Im not a politician but I still think they are a load of wankers. The fact of the matter is 50,000,000 babies (for that is what they are) are being killed each year, sometimes in the most hideous ways and there is no way on gods green earth that each of those cases is some set of tragic circumstances.......a huge proportion are just “life choices” as they euphemistically call it. You bet your bollocks I’m going to have an opinion about that.......I think, like me, you have a few kids wrapped round you so you must have been in enough maternity wards and infant intensive care wards to have seen those little tots born at 24 weeks, fighting to live, skin like tissue paper........there no way after seeing that I could condone chopping them into little bits and throwing them in the incinerator. But, I understand everyone thinks different. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,895 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 As for queers getting married, I’m not that bothered about it......if they want to call it “marriage” then crack on, we all know it isn’t. I don’t really have a problem with poofs, if they want to cut about arseholing each other that’s down to them long as they ain’t hurting anyone.........however, don’t anyone try and tell me it normal because one look in the pants of a man and a woman tells you clearly it isn’t. What will also come as a surprise to most people I’m sure is that I don’t have a problem with gays adopting kids, better a kid in a loving environment than some shitty care home or with some drug addled or alcoholic “normal” couple living like animals. However, when the education system promotes homosexuality then allow me the right as a parent to let my kids stay at home that day. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted October 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Greyman said: I don’t agree or disagree and I would like to walk a mile in a mans shoes before I condemn him but as I can’t fall pregnant carry a baby or have an abortion I feel I have no right to condemn anyone that has to make this awful decision, I also feel that Francie is exhibiting foe anger on religious grounds and should just mind his own business and wind his neck in unless it has a direct affect on him or a close family member, it’s not a subject many take lightly and certainly not one for a load of hairy arsed blokes to decide the outcome, I have the greatest sympathy for any woman that has to decide on this and don’t think any of our personal feelings or opinions matter one jot, sorry but that’s how I see it It's got nothing to do with my religion grey, it's to do with the right to life, is everyone including the unborn not have a right to life? An it has affected me cause one of my family members have gone through it. Ffs man you can't touch a lot of certain animals, or you be fined an put in jail ffs. But a wee baby, nah kill it, cmon is that not wrong on all counts? If you kick a woman in stomach when she's pregnant an baby dies, you get done for murder, but aborting it is fine ffs. The poor wee critters get no pain relief at all, get poisoned with potassium cholride then there wee heads crushed an so on an the baby feels all this. OK for you an others to say none of your business, but it's a wee defenceless baby who never had a chance, unlike us who are here an lived. If you seen a wee newborn baby in distress you'd help right, cause it's a wee defenceless baby, but killing it cause its not appropriate, nah fuk that it's murder, plain an simple. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,895 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) I think what’s important is that, whatever your opinion (or not) of the subject, we shouldn’t sanitise it........it is what it is and it’s howling anyway you look at it. Edited October 24, 2019 by WILF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 31,500 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 I,m really sorry but I personally don’t do emotion very well, so 50,000,000 less people draining the planets resources is nothing but positive in my mind, it’s ok to have opinions but I don’t think it’s ok to push them on others, makes you no different from vegans telling carnivores they are murderers, everyone of those women have to close there eyes at night and live with there decision so I,ll personally leave it to them to justify or demonise, not having a pop at anyone just adding a different angle, 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,895 Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 I think the crux of the matter is, responsibility and moral values promoted in society just don’t pay very well.......whereas dismembering infants probably pays handsomely (as the myriad clinics will testify) Its not a problem with women, it’s a problem with society in general and the skewed compass that seems to guide the modern world. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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