Before or after?

[low plains drifter 9,486]

30 minutes ago, trigger2 said:

I’ve seen one or two dogs go off there feet over the years and most of them seemed to have one thing in common they hadn’t been fed for a long time before lamping. I’ve been out with a lad who reckoned he read in a Plummer book not to feed his dog the day it was going running. Not sure how true that was but his dog went off it’s legs fast. I ain’t saying that running a dog on a empty stomach is necessarily wrong but that’s just been my experience.  

Blood sugar and salt levels would be low if they had went without food for too long, empty tank is no good to man, beast, or motor

[Countryman62 539]

Running a dog with grub in its belly can cause bloat even if it's been fed several hours earlier, this can be a life threatening condition, I have always ran a dog with an empty gut and never had a problem, from what I've experienced with my dogs and mate's dogs is they seem more focused when they're run with an empty gut, after a meal my bitch takes about 15 hours before she needs to shit but every dogs different and every owner should know their own dog, there's no hard and fast rules in this game, it's each to their own, I want to feel confident every time I lamp and for me thats running the bitch with an empty gut, Atb 

[two crows 3,342]

if your running large rabbits daytime dogs are fed tea time day before, when I was lamping I all ways waited till I came back never a problem.

[dogmad riley 1,337]

I find mine perform best with a tin of sardines roughly 4 hours before heading out. 

Also run them on empty stomach. 

Never feed a dog just before it's about to head out. My great Dane died due to stomach twisting due to running about after a meal. 

[joe ox 2,547]

If they have a lot of digested food ready or nearly ready to come out  and your going on a long journey just make sure you let them empty themselves properly before you go and usually half way there  

[skycat 6,172]

Dogs, like all predators, hunt better on an empty stomach. Not only is it dangerous to feed before working, but it must be damned uncomfortable for the dog to have food sitting in its stomach when it's trying to catch something.  There's no reason why you shouldn't feed a small meal at least 4 hours before working, but personally I've never done this, BUT, any dog, no matter how fit, can go off its legs if it is over-run. That's got nothing to do with lack of food, unless the dog has been routinely starved and is massively underweight. The most common reason for a dog to go off its legs is because its owner doesn't know when to call it a day, or a night. The old saying is: go home with another run left in the dog. They are not robots and there are only so many hours any athlete can keep on running.

As far as bloat (otherwise known as twisted gut or torsion: the stomach actually twists round on itself trapping food and gas in the stomach: hence the bloating) is concerned, big dogs are more likely to have this problem, as has already been said. It happens sometimes when dogs ingest a lot of air as they eat, which is why many people feed tall and deep-chested dogs from raised bowls as they are less likely to swallow air as they gulp their food.

[TOMO 24,908]

1 hour ago, two crows said:

if your running large rabbits daytime dogs are fed tea time day before, when I was lamping I all ways waited till I came back never a problem.

exactly my point....most lads running daytime on the seed would feed a normal meal the night befor...so the dog has 12 hours or so to digest....same with lads going ferreting the next morning...bushing ...foxing whatever......nobody that goes out first thing in the morning hunting....would have fed the dog the morning befor ie 24 hours earlier....

yet loads of lads still persist with this theory in lamping....

[Black neck 15,173]

Started gi mine tin of sardines wi a good glug of salmon oil before hand for energy 

Feck me It were like I'd gi them a line a chunk soon packed that lark in

[Big Ron 1,139]

Feed mine same time everyday 4pm , cut back a little feed if lamping that night starting to lamp at 12:30ish , 8 + hours plenty of a gap  , then feed again in morning when back and so on , I wouldnt like to put a hard shift in with an empty tank 

[TOMO 24,908]

28 minutes ago, Black neck said:

Feck me It were like I'd gi them a line a chunk soon packed that lark in

I'm only a mere 20 mile north of you....and i have no clue what......"line a chunk" means???....anybody??

[Saltmoon 2,208]

Just now, TOMO said:

I'm only a mere 20 mile north of you....and i have no clue what......"line a chunk" means???....anybody??

I'd take a stab in the dark and cocaine

[Saltmoon 2,208]

Mine don't get chance to put a full night in of graft there simply ain't the rabbits about at the moment but it seems to be on the up

[TOMO 24,908]

12 minutes ago, Saltmoon said:

I'd take a stab in the dark and cocaine

ahh yes i got you.....we would say a line of charlie

[Big Ron 1,139]

1 minute ago, TOMO said:

ahh yes i got you.....we would say a line of charlie

I like Colombian marching powder the best 

[low plains drifter 9,486]

1 hour ago, TOMO said:

I'm only a mere 20 mile north of you....and i have no clue what......"line a chunk" means???....anybody??

Could be something to do with Robert pishing out the bedroom window wi a full tank of beans