South hams hunter 8,837 Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, maxhardcore said: If you wernt Sackless you'd be sacked . How many breaks you want ya bone idle fooker. No wonder the country is in the state it's in . Well I get 5 in a 12 hour shift Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackmag 5,870 Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Looks like fury wilder second fight has been ordered by the wbc looks like Joshua will have to wait if fury wins it could be fury Joshua before the end of the year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billy b 724 Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Eddie Hearn "offering" Tyson this or that means f*ck all without him speaking to frank warren, which he hasnt... and he's still being greedy over dough. AJ is the A side yes but 50/50 is fair and if they can't make it like that it should not be less than 60/40 hearn gives it all that that AJ fights for legacy & pride, it's not about the money, but all the stumbling blocks are over cash negotiations, everyone's got to be paid fair but you can't come at men like Tyson and Wilder with poxy offers, Hearn and AJ seem to want it all their own way with no leeway they'll do all they can to make themselves look game for the fight without actually taking it... A side B side, whatever, get a fair purse & get the fight on AJ should say now right, if you's are tied up with each other I'll have to do something with myself but I 100% no questions asked want the winner, let's get to it, no messing no more, but instead you've got Hearn chucking hot air around about April the 13th, and I don't disbelieve warren at all when he says it certainly wasn't 60/40 offered to Tyson 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryaldinhio 4,135 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Billy b said: Eddie Hearn "offering" Tyson this or that means f*ck all without him speaking to frank warren, which he hasnt... and he's still being greedy over dough. AJ is the A side yes but 50/50 is fair and if they can't make it like that it should not be less than 60/40 hearn gives it all that that AJ fights for legacy & pride, it's not about the money, but all the stumbling blocks are over cash negotiations, everyone's got to be paid fair but you can't come at men like Tyson and Wilder with poxy offers, Hearn and AJ seem to want it all their own way with no leeway they'll do all they can to make themselves look game for the fight without actually taking it... A side B side, whatever, get a fair purse & get the fight on AJ should say now right, if you's are tied up with each other I'll have to do something with myself but I 100% no questions asked want the winner, let's get to it, no messing no more, but instead you've got Hearn chucking hot air around about April the 13th, and I don't disbelieve warren at all when he says it certainly wasn't 60/40 offered to Tyson Billy 50/50 to me isn't right, wilder has a belt fury doesnt. 60/40 is, in any of these fights, the right split. Whoever has the most belts in the fight has 60 split. See WBC stepped in and changed the enforced 70/30 Be changed to a 60/40 due to furys pull. I think until they sort it out every fight 60/40 to holder of most belts. No negotiations. If every governing body said that there would be no hearn and warren and No ducking etc. I am glad they have forced the second fight. But for me the split isn't the issue the location will be the decider. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryaldinhio 4,135 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 For me the return should be in the UK I have heard wembley has a date coming up that might be going spare!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,837 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: Fury v Wilder at Wembley would be a sell out. Not to mention the PPV figures which would smash all records. These two are the pull at the moment not AJ and his meaningless mis matches No they wouldn't, they'd need 5 mil ppv The Money Fight generated 4.3 million pay-per-view buys ranking it second all-time behind the Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquaio bout (4.6 million) from May 2015 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 WBC looking out for Wilder again ? They have ordered an immediate rematch with Fury and the split to be 60/40 in Wilders favour. What a coincidence as Hearn had just allegedly offered Wilder a 40% split for him to face Joshua ! Wilder would be seen by everyone to be the one avoiding Joshua had he not accepted the 40% offer from Hearn , now with the WBC ordering the immediate rematch with Fury that gets Wilder out of fighting Joshua. If fight goes to purse bids Hearn has said he will be in for it. 2019 could be an interesting one for the Heavyweight division. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,180 Posted January 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Wilder and fury are stopping ajs legacy because until he faces both of them he really hasn’t got much of a legacy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said: Wilder and fury are stopping ajs legacy because until he faces both of them he really hasn’t got much of a legacy If Hearn is now offering Wilder and Fury 40% deals there is no reason why the fights cant be made . The low purses to face Joshua were apparently what was stopping the fights happening. Surely for Fury 40% against Joshua would be worth more than 40% against Wilder ? and the Joshua fight would be in the UK . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martyn2233 2,173 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, maxhardcore said: Fury v Wilder at Wembley would be a sell out. Not to mention the PPV figures which would smash all records. These two are the pull at the moment not AJ and his meaningless mis matches Muhammad Ali Has Been Voted The Greatest Boxer Of All Time http://www.sportbible.com/boxing/news-reactions-legends-muhammad-ali-has-been-voted-the-greatest-boxer-of-all-time-20190117?utm_source=apple-news so not fury then Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martyn2233 2,173 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 32 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: I'm leaning towards Clarty Marty But by fook it's closer than Brexit You can’t take it can you fury’s NOT the best sad c**t Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,133 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 hours ago, MickC said: If Hearn is now offering Wilder and Fury 40% deals there is no reason why the fights cant be made . The low purses to face Joshua were apparently what was stopping the fights happening. Surely for Fury 40% against Joshua would be worth more than 40% against Wilder ? and the Joshua fight would be in the UK . Mick, what's the situation with wilder and brezeale? Because I personally don't think wilder will fight fury again, even in america, regardless of splits, purse bids or whatever Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,837 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 4 hours ago, maxhardcore said: You and Munter= Dumb and Dumber . It hard to suss out which is which lol I will let yous decide lol You honestly believe fury/wildman will outsell pacman and Mayweather? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, shaaark said: Mick, what's the situation with wilder and brezeale? Because I personally don't think wilder will fight fury again, even in america, regardless of splits, purse bids or whatever Brezeale is the mandatory for wilders WBC belt and has been for around 18 month iirc.Its a strange situation in that they have ordered an immediate rematch as Fury was only a voluntary challenger and also Whyte has been sitting as the WBC no1 contender for a good while now as well. If Wilder does not agree to fight Fury then he will be stripped and more than likely Fury V Brezeale would fight for the belt with Whyte moved up to mandatory. Two ways you can look at it really either the WBC have made this move to get Wilder out of fighting Joshua or they have had enough of him and would prefer the more popular Fury to be there Champion and then have him move onto the block buster fight with Joshua. Knowing how protected Wilder has been id say it was to get him out of the Joshua fight as with Hearn allegedly offering 40% of the purse there is no hiding or excuses for Wilder now . Edited January 17, 2019 by MickC sp 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,133 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, MickC said: Brezeale is the mandatory for wilders WBC belt and has been for around 18 month iirc.Its a strange situation in that they have ordered an immediate rematch as Fury was only a voluntary challenger and also Whyte has been sitting as the WBC no1 contender for a good while now. I Yeah, that was my understanding. I can see a bowe/lewis scenario on the horizon regarding wilder and fury/jushua lol. The politics etc is definitely turning fans away from the sport. Or rather, I should say some fans lol Edited January 17, 2019 by shaaark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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