We're going to need a bigger gun ... !

[Rabid 1,936]

1 hour ago, neil82 said:

 it is probably written in to the zoo licence that the park/zoo has to have their own gear and competent people to use them

My local park certainly has, and a jolly fine selection of tools they have as well, I've never been privy to it all, but I've seen a few bits and I would say they have more than enough to deal with most eventualities.

[neil82 1,008]

33 minutes ago, JDHUNTING said:

I thought that only applied to the armed forces and the police did use expanding ammo? Rather shoot something like a rhino with a round that would penetrate well anyhow to be honest no point expanding if it can't get through the hide

plod is controlled by the same regs in the UK, don`t know about europlod, yanks have open season, not just expanding but shrapnel type ammo is promoted over there as ideal law enforcement ammo for ultimate "stopping power", the drug problems they have probably mean they need them there, as for expanding ammo penetrating hide, if the gun is big enough for the job it will penetrate the hide no problem, it just needs to do enough damage on the way through to drop the animal

[ChrisJones 7,973]

This end is the opposite. We're not allowed to use FMJ for anything other than practice. LE/security ammo is expanding hollowpoints in pistol calibres.

[steve66 3,086]

F* ck its starting to sound like the airgun section , bull x job done lol

[sussex 5,776]

I’ve heard our local police have got a 177 AND a .22. ...that’s thinking on yer feet ...

[Born Hunter 17,638]

6 hours ago, neil82 said:

plod is controlled by the same regs in the UK, don`t know about europlod, yanks have open season, not just expanding but shrapnel type ammo is promoted over there as ideal law enforcement ammo for ultimate "stopping power", the drug problems they have probably mean they need them there, as for expanding ammo penetrating hide, if the gun is big enough for the job it will penetrate the hide no problem, it just needs to do enough damage on the way through to drop the animal

That might be true but it's not the Geneva conventions that stop them mate. As said, they do not apply to domestic policing.

I think it might be the Hague Convention that prohibits expanding ammo anyway?

[walshie 2,804]

12 hours ago, ChrisJones said:

I'd go with a BSA Lightning in .25. One shot one kill.

You'd need to wash and lube the pellets first, obviously. 

[ChrisJones 7,973]

7 hours ago, walshie said:

You'd need to wash and lube the pellets first, obviously. 

[ChrisJones 7,973]

8 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

I think it might be the Hague Convention that prohibits expanding ammo anyway?

That was my understanding although like you I believe it only covers wartime and law enforcement is covered by local jurisdictions. Give the risk FMJ poses to bystanders I would be surprised if police forces used it in pistols.

[.357shooter 993]

not come anywhere near to a rhino but did round a corner in a nature reserve in canada and have a little bison 20yards in front of me.now that was big enough and i did not also feel very safe inside the car