Welsh_red 5,083 Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 That's a nice way of putting it 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 10,400 Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Happening everywhere, the left are destroying everything Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 History has always been written by the winners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 but the truth comes out in the end Only if you read it. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 5,083 Posted October 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 but the truth comes out in the end Only if you read it. Or watch it on a random YouTube video Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KES2 171 Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Or have the strength of character to make it to print - Stalin would not have liked the truth - for example. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 That was nice of them to move out. I guess the option of being horribly slaughtered didn't appeal . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 I hate revisionism and this is a terrible example of the practise ! This isn't a little tweek of the facts, it's a dirty great coat of whitewash, with a huge blind eye stuck in it ! Rename this school, because it was built by a slave trader......take down that statue, he was an imperialist......remove that dog's name from a photo (!)...... History, yes, is written by winners, but should always have a large degree of factual content, and record events impartially, otherwise it's just an opinion ! Edward Colston WAS a slave trader (among others things), but he used his vast wealth to build schools and libraries for the poor of his home town. Nelson WAS an imperialist, but he is one of this countries greatest heroes, and with good reason....as was Guy Gibson - despite the fact that his dog WAS called Nigger ! Why is the truth so uncomfortable to people who weren't even born when the events happened ? The past can't be changed, but we CAN learn from it, or we are destined to repeat it's mistakes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,985 Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) That's a nice way of putting it Just to be clear children. The First Nations Peoples were not happy in their primitive way of life so we had to burn their villages and murder them for convenience and amusement. We also shot their primary food source into extinction for sport. We made lots of treaties with them but we always broke them because they were not God fearing white people like us. Some of the First Nations Peoples were very ungrateful because when they made way for us, we gave them, (out of the goodness of our hearts) lovely reservations but they didn't like them simply because they were thousands of miles away from their old homes and the land was unsuitable for farming. Eventually we persuaded the First Nations Peoples to accept our magnificent generosity and they have been happy ever since. In the interests of historical accuracy we have made lots of films depicting the First Nations Peoples being naughty and attacking innocent settlers, but the cowboys, helped by our righteous and God fearing army always wins in the end. Never forget children, that the American army continues to euthanise naughty ethnic people all over the world. We are the world's policeman, our wars are always righteous and we have God on our side. Now bow your heads whilst we sing the national anthem. Edited October 25, 2017 by jukel123 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 That's a nice way of putting it Just to be clear children. The First Nations Peoples were not happy in their primitive way of life so we had to burn their villages and murder them for convenience and amusement. We also shot their primary food source into extinction for sport. We made lots of treaties with them but we always broke them because they were not God fearing white people like us. Some of the First Nations Peoples were very ungrateful because when they made way for us, we gave them, (out of the goodness of our hearts) lovely reservations but they didn't like them simply because they were thousands of miles away from their old homes and the land was unsuitable for farming. Eventually we persuaded the First Nations Peoples to accept our magnificent generosity and they have been happy ever since. In the interests of historical accuracy we have made lots of films depicting the First Nations Peoples being naughty and attacking innocent settlers, but the cowboys, helped by our righteous and God fearing army always wins in the end. Never forget children, that the American army continues to euthanise naughty ethnic people all over the world. We are the world's policeman, our wars are always righteous and we have God on our side. Now bow your heads whilst we sing the national anthem. Just to be clear, I think the correct term is "indigenous people" these days....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,975 Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 What's with this 'we' and 'us'? IMO that's half the problem, pretending that what white folk did a few hundred years ago is somehow our responsibility today. 'We' feel a bit guilty about it and try to scrub it out and 'they' feel like victims of it and try to make us guilty. It's all bollocks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,975 Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 And if I'm not mistaken, the natives were quite keen on killing each other just the same as the European invaders were. Everyone back then was a f***ing savage! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,985 Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 What's with this 'we' and 'us'? IMO that's half the problem, pretending that what white folk did a few hundred years ago is somehow our responsibility today. 'We' feel a bit guilty about it and try to scrub it out and 'they' feel like victims of it and try to make us guilty. It's all bollocks! I don't buy that collective guilt either. Nowt to do with me. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 30,587 Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 IMO that's half the problem, pretending that what white folk did a few hundred years ago is somehow our responsibility today. Not half of the problem mate,its ALL of the problem,inherited guilt is a ridiculous concept,how and where does it end?I aint guilty for my grandfathers or great-grandfathers misdemeanours just as vlad the impalers modern day family tree are free of guilt from his wrongdoings.It boils my piss when I hear black americans or brits bleating about reparation for slavery,why don't they f**k off to Zanzibar or the middle east and ask for payment for the historical crimes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 What's with this 'we' and 'us'? IMO that's half the problem, pretending that what white folk did a few hundred years ago is somehow our responsibility today. 'We' feel a bit guilty about it and try to scrub it out and 'they' feel like victims of it and try to make us guilty. It's all bollocks! I don't buy that collective guilt either. Nowt to do with me. I don't think many people do tbh. I'm really bad at history, it's sounds sad, but mostly I can't be arsed with it & I think that go's for most people I know. As usual it will be a minority getting all worked up about another minority, especially on all this social media shite! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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