Born Hunter 17,909 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 As an aside, if anyone thinks this election is about Brexit then I will say this......you don't actually beleive you will end up with a deal that suits people better than it suits politicians and their corporate backers do you? I mean, no one is silly enough to beleive that are they? Being perfectly honest mate, I don't care if the deals consider the profits of multinationals more than that of the little man. When the board of directors of the big multinational I work for are taking home 6 figure bonus's I'm getting pay rises, bonus's and liberal use of the companies credit card! My biggest concern is having someone sat negotiating trade who's greatest concern is whether the deal will reduce the number of minorities in the workplace or restrict the growth of some eastern bloc state! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,838 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 I don't agree neems, I think sometimes in life you have to make a point and f**k any personal pain it may cause........and in this instance your life will continue to get worse, more money will get extorted out of you to pay for it so in truth what could possibly be worse? At least you will have the peace of mind knowing you never voted for or endorsed any of it mate. Problem is wilf everybody thinks different if only it was so simple. Whilst we are all taking the moral high ground I those who think differently would be undermining us if we don't vote then you will the greens or some other shite in power... Its catch 22 Imho mate, it don't matter who gets in......jobs f****d pal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,838 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 It may not have escaped some of you lads attention that I have completely lost faith ! Lol lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,909 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 I get that Born, I really do but imho the facts no longer stand up to the Conservative party being the party of letting people get on, low tax, smaller government etc. I see absolutely no difference between them and new labour at all. It's big tax, more legislation, more rules......ask any self employed bloke who owns a van around the London area if they feel better off under the Tories? People are getting the shit ripped out of them every bit as bad as any socialist government.......they have no choice, £1.7 TRILLION in the hole and rising. There's two ways out of that, default or make it that people are just working for the state their whole life. It's hard to argue with mate. I see a similar picture these days and said the same privately yesterday. They've moved left to capitalise on the New Labour crowd, it's sensible but shit if you don't feel like you fit in with the mainstream of British politics. I've still got more faith in them than the others right now though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,909 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 It may not have escaped some of you lads attention that I have completely lost faith ! Lol lol You're a bit older than me, give me a few years to catch up, I can feel it coming! LOL 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,838 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 I don't agree neems, I think sometimes in life you have to make a point and f**k any personal pain it may cause........and in this instance your life will continue to get worse, more money will get extorted out of you to pay for it so in truth what could possibly be worse? At least you will have the peace of mind knowing you never voted for or endorsed any of it mate. Literally everything would get worse including immigration,taxation and national debt,because if 90% of people agreed on this labour voters would be the 10% and they'd win! If the turn out was tiny,the winners would still win and no-one would care,or at least nothing would be changed for the better. If you can't do the best thing,then the second best or failing that the third best and so on is the only option imo. Maybe everything needs to be much worse to actually get people out of their slumber......because as it stands folk are being drip fed just enough comfort to maintain the status quo ? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arcticgun 4,548 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 its shameful that in the modern age we still so easily led up the same old river and eventually sold out when they have our vote and get in power, its about time technology was used to allow people a vote on single issues that affect us, them that lead would be money managers and do as the people wish, I cant see why that's a problem, too many privileged people have the power and they haven't earned the right too it by actions its usually by birth and family, I dprefer somebody with a real business pedigree in charge of the purse than a set of spoilt toffs out for their own 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 I don't agree neems, I think sometimes in life you have to make a point and f**k any personal pain it may cause........and in this instance your life will continue to get worse, more money will get extorted out of you to pay for it so in truth what could possibly be worse? At least you will have the peace of mind knowing you never voted for or endorsed any of it mate. Literally everything would get worse including immigration,taxation and national debt,because if 90% of people agreed on this labour voters would be the 10% and they'd win! If the turn out was tiny,the winners would still win and no-one would care,or at least nothing would be changed for the better. If you can't do the best thing,then the second best or failing that the third best and so on is the only option imo. Maybe everything needs to be much worse to actually get people out of their slumber......because as it stands folk are being drip fed just enough comfort to maintain the status quo ? That's going to happen anyway. If we're a penniless minority by then it won't do us much good anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,838 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) All different views of the same arsehole lads, I have nothing to do with it any more and I have to say, I feel a lot better for not. I have just said on another thread, the French election will have a bigger impact on Joe Soaps life than our own GE Edited April 19, 2017 by WILF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 I don't agree neems, I think sometimes in life you have to make a point and f**k any personal pain it may cause........and in this instance your life will continue to get worse, more money will get extorted out of you to pay for it so in truth what could possibly be worse? At least you will have the peace of mind knowing you never voted for or endorsed any of it mate. Literally everything would get worse including immigration,taxation and national debt,because if 90% of people agreed on this labour voters would be the 10% and they'd win! If the turn out was tiny,the winners would still win and no-one would care,or at least nothing would be changed for the better. If you can't do the best thing,then the second best or failing that the third best and so on is the only option imo. Maybe everything needs to be much worse to actually get people out of their slumber......because as it stands folk are being drip fed just enough comfort to maintain the status quo ? “So long as they (the Proles) continued to work and breed, their other activities were without importance. Left to themselves, like cattle turned loose upon the plains of Argentina, they had reverted to a style of life that appeared to be natural to them, a sort of ancestral pattern...Heavy physical work, the care of home and children, petty quarrels with neighbors, films, football, beer and above all, gambling filled up the horizon of their minds. To keep them in control was not difficult.”― George Orwell, 1984 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 10,275 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 9 of 13 voted against the election was labour surprise surprise Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,946 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Carnt believe the beast of Bolsover voted against a G.E maybe he knows labour are going to get humiliated on june the 8th I fekin hope so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,437 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) Carnt believe the beast of Bolsover voted against a G.E maybe he knows labour are going to get humiliated on june the 8th I fekin hope so. I'd say this is probably why Dennis voted against. Dennis Skinner blasts Theresa May's 'squalid' decision to let MPs under police investigation stand in general election Labour firebrand Dennis Skinner has blasted Theresa May's "squalid" tactics for letting MPs stand again in the general election - even if they could be charged with fraud. The veteran 'Beast of Bolsover' spoke out today after it emerged Tory MPs could be prosecuted days before the upcoming general election on June 8. Fourteen police forces have handed files relating to 2015 general election spending to the Crown Prosecution Service, which must decide whether to prosecute by early June. That means it could choose to charge MPs days before voters in their constituencies go to the polls. Yet the Prime Minister said she "stands by" every single MP - and they will be allowed to stand for re-election. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/dennis-skinner-blasts-theresa-mays-10254841 Edited April 19, 2017 by BGD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,946 Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) Carnt believe the beast of Bolsover voted against a G.E maybe he knows labour are going to get humiliated on june the 8th I fekin hope so. I'd say this is probably why Dennis voted against. Dennis Skinner blasts Theresa May's 'squalid' decision to let MPs under police investigation stand in general election Labour firebrand Dennis Skinner has blasted Theresa May's "squalid" tactics for letting MPs stand again in the general election - even if they could be charged with fraud. The veteran 'Beast of Bolsover' spoke out today after it emerged Tory MPs could be prosecuted days before the upcoming general election on June 8. Fourteen police forces have handed files relating to 2015 general election spending to the Crown Prosecution Service, which must decide whether to prosecute by early June. That means it could choose to charge MPs days before voters in their constituencies go to the polls. Yet the Prime Minister said she "stands by" every single MP - and they will be allowed to stand for re-election. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/dennis-skinner-blasts-theresa-mays-10254841 Probably .Just think he knows deep down labour are f****d though I would have thought his seat would be as safe as houses the same as the 3 labour goons we have in I know nothing Healy. Sarah Chumpion (don't ever ask who her ex chuafer was) And Sir Kevin Barron who f****d his union over once he got what he wanted a commited Blairite.And idiots from Rotherham will still vote for them .lol All 3 also voted to stay in the E.U against the wishes of the Rotherham electorate this is another reason why labour are so out of touch with their core working class voters and are more intrested in pandering to the middle class lefty types. Edited April 20, 2017 by tatsblisters Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tilimangro 1,013 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 I can't get behind the Tories I would vote ukip but they don't seem to know what they're doing Fed up with the state of this country 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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