Indyref2

[jacknife 2,005]

The difference in the vote in Scotland was only 600,000 with areas like Glasgow had just over 50 voting

 

Be interesting to see the real feeling about brexit if more Scots had bothered to vote

 

Might not be as pro Eu as sturgeon thinks

[arcticgun 4,548]

 

What a shame the numbers coming in are dropping maybe the snp should concentrate on ensuring all the Scottish lads claiming dole get themselves along too the jobs they leaving open then eh

It's getting them lads to do it. Where I'm from, the local fruit vege industry has been supported by migrant labour for over 30 years, of course now it's dominated by it. Relying on local labour to fill those jobs is a non starter mate.

 

this where Nu labour screwed up imho allowing people too simply doss on the dole in return for repeat votes, mind a fe wyear back all them programs on Tv too wind the middle class up where the dollies all living it up loads of kids playstations 50 inch TVs etc ne car on drive free rent and spends, plenty left for stella n weed etc all funded by the silly twats who go slave away for minimum wage in the hope of eating seven meals a week, food bansk opening in a major world power country you could not make it up,, people allowed to sit n there arses whilst there paying jobs that then need filling with imports that everyone then moans about I wnder how they like it if there no veg or fruit in Tesco ever again, they soon have the workshy out grafting then lol

 

but hey maybe it makes more sense to allow them too sit do nothing and rot , sort of lowers their kids expectations and the downhill slide continues , but at least we can still look down n them who come here to work and plug the gaps eh that's progress innit just

[arcticgun 4,548]

The difference in the vote in Scotland was only 600,000 with areas like Glasgow had just over 50 voting

 

Be interesting to see the real feeling about brexit if more Scots had bothered to vote

 

Might not be as pro Eu as sturgeon thinks

that's my feeling too most scots lads I speak too want out of Europe too even if it hurts us in the process cause we all know it will hurt the politicians even more and for much longer, the fact they have lost the ability too control us must really frighten them, await more 'terrorist activity'' real soon, just so that we not dwelling on this for too long

[Accip74 7,112]

 

 

What a shame the numbers coming in are dropping maybe the snp should concentrate on ensuring all the Scottish lads claiming dole get themselves along too the jobs they leaving open then eh

 

It's getting them lads to do it. Where I'm from, the local fruit vege industry has been supported by migrant labour for over 30 years, of course now it's dominated by it. Relying on local labour to fill those jobs is a non starter mate.

this where Nu labour screwed up imho allowing people too simply doss on the dole in return for repeat votes, mind a fe wyear back all them programs on Tv too wind the middle class up where the dollies all living it up loads of kids playstations 50 inch TVs etc ne car on drive free rent and spends, plenty left for stella n weed etc all funded by the silly twats who go slave away for minimum wage in the hope of eating seven meals a week, food bansk opening in a major world power country you could not make it up,, people allowed to sit n there arses whilst there paying jobs that then need filling with imports that everyone then moans about I wnder how they like it if there no veg or fruit in Tesco ever again, they soon have the workshy out grafting then lol

 

but hey maybe it makes more sense to allow them too sit do nothing and rot , sort of lowers their kids expectations and the downhill slide continues , but at least we can still look down n them who come here to work and plug the gaps eh that's progress innit just

I know what you mean mate, but forcing drop outs into jobs they don't want to do, doesn't really do employers much good.

 

The fruit & vege industry is a good example actually. The younger generation of decent workers are more aspirational, they don't want to work on vege farms & who can blame them?

The benefit scrounges are lazier & better off than ever, preoccupied by play stations etc, so they can't be relied upon, even if you forced them into those jobs..........So you've got a massive gulf to fill, what does the Industry do? Cutting asparagus was never, or will ever be attractive to most....

[arcticgun 4,548]

 

 

 

What a shame the numbers coming in are dropping maybe the snp should concentrate on ensuring all the Scottish lads claiming dole get themselves along too the jobs they leaving open then eh

It's getting them lads to do it. Where I'm from, the local fruit vege industry has been supported by migrant labour for over 30 years, of course now it's dominated by it. Relying on local labour to fill those jobs is a non starter mate.

this where Nu labour screwed up imho allowing people too simply doss on the dole in return for repeat votes, mind a fe wyear back all them programs on Tv too wind the middle class up where the dollies all living it up loads of kids playstations 50 inch TVs etc ne car on drive free rent and spends, plenty left for stella n weed etc all funded by the silly twats who go slave away for minimum wage in the hope of eating seven meals a week, food bansk opening in a major world power country you could not make it up,, people allowed to sit n there arses whilst there paying jobs that then need filling with imports that everyone then moans about I wnder how they like it if there no veg or fruit in Tesco ever again, they soon have the workshy out grafting then lol

 

but hey maybe it makes more sense to allow them too sit do nothing and rot , sort of lowers their kids expectations and the downhill slide continues , but at least we can still look down n them who come here to work and plug the gaps eh that's progress innit just

I know what you mean mate, but forcing drop outs into jobs they don't want to do, doesn't really do employers much good.

 

The fruit & vege industry is a good example actually. The younger generation of decent workers are more aspirational, they don't want to work on vege farms & who can blame them?

The benefit scrounges are lazier & better off than ever, preoccupied by play stations etc, so they can't be relied upon, even if you forced them into those jobs..........So you've got a massive gulf to fill, what does the Industry do? Cutting asparagus was never, or will ever be attractive to most....

 

Id rather cut asparagus than starve or rely on handouts even if ive paid into the system, Id not want my kids fetched up like that for sure, it should not be beneath anyone to work and pay there way, it should not be acceptable to allow people to simply survive on limited handouts, mainly cos people like that are selfish and don't think of others including there own children , they smoke drink and play games all day but rarely feed there kids a proper diet or spend time with them, they have loads of kids cos it pays too and has done for many years

 

the education system is a joke too , look at higher education for instance, colleges are full of kids doing full time courses lol that's three days a week, well two if you take out the breaks and dinners, my wn lad attends one they going to teach him to be a brickie lol they going to do this in two years three days a week lol when I went to college the brickies where in five days a week or on placement , look how many of the so called courses are just holding pens for the local trash recently released from secondary education system, idiots that no employer would tolerate eben if they come free with wages paid lol its a joke take the wasters away and rest could get proper full time courses undisturbed by the mongs, to be fair the universities are all in on it now, loads of not so bright middle class kids getting in when years ago they wouldn't of stood a chance all this just to hide the real unemployment figures, but there still labour out there and if it good enough for imports then it good enough for our own as well imho

[kanny 21,554]

We have always had a seasonal worker visas long before the open door policy what's the problem?

[Accip74 7,112]

We have always had a seasonal worker visas long before the open door policy what's the problem?

A lot of those places now need more than seasonal workers to rely on...

[Accip74 7,112]

 

 

 

 

What a shame the numbers coming in are dropping maybe the snp should concentrate on ensuring all the Scottish lads claiming dole get themselves along too the jobs they leaving open then eh

 

It's getting them lads to do it. Where I'm from, the local fruit vege industry has been supported by migrant labour for over 30 years, of course now it's dominated by it. Relying on local labour to fill those jobs is a non starter mate.

this where Nu labour screwed up imho allowing people too simply doss on the dole in return for repeat votes, mind a fe wyear back all them programs on Tv too wind the middle class up where the dollies all living it up loads of kids playstations 50 inch TVs etc ne car on drive free rent and spends, plenty left for stella n weed etc all funded by the silly twats who go slave away for minimum wage in the hope of eating seven meals a week, food bansk opening in a major world power country you could not make it up,, people allowed to sit n there arses whilst there paying jobs that then need filling with imports that everyone then moans about I wnder how they like it if there no veg or fruit in Tesco ever again, they soon have the workshy out grafting then lol

 

but hey maybe it makes more sense to allow them too sit do nothing and rot , sort of lowers their kids expectations and the downhill slide continues , but at least we can still look down n them who come here to work and plug the gaps eh that's progress innit just

I know what you mean mate, but forcing drop outs into jobs they don't want to do, doesn't really do employers much good.

The fruit & vege industry is a good example actually. The younger generation of decent workers are more aspirational, they don't want to work on vege farms & who can blame them?

The benefit scrounges are lazier & better off than ever, preoccupied by play stations etc, so they can't be relied upon, even if you forced them into those jobs..........So you've got a massive gulf to fill, what does the Industry do? Cutting asparagus was never, or will ever be attractive to most....

Id rather cut asparagus than starve or rely on handouts even if ive paid into the system, Id not want my kids fetched up like that for sure, it should not be beneath anyone to work and pay there way, it should not be acceptable to allow people to simply survive on limited handouts, mainly cos people like that are selfish and don't think of others including there own children , they smoke drink and play games all day but rarely feed there kids a proper diet or spend time with them, they have loads of kids cos it pays too and has done for many years

 

the education system is a joke too , look at higher education for instance, colleges are full of kids doing full time courses lol that's three days a week, well two if you take out the breaks and dinners, my wn lad attends one they going to teach him to be a brickie lol they going to do this in two years three days a week lol when I went to college the brickies where in five days a week or on placement , look how many of the so called courses are just holding pens for the local trash recently released from secondary education system, idiots that no employer would tolerate eben if they come free with wages paid lol its a joke take the wasters away and rest could get proper full time courses undisturbed by the mongs, to be fair the universities are all in on it now, loads of not so bright middle class kids getting in when years ago they wouldn't of stood a chance all this just to hide the real unemployment figures, but there still labour out there and if it good enough for imports then it good enough for our own as well imho

Yes mate, but unfortunately many jobs are seen beneath many doles now & it's not so new....

 

The last time I done little stints on the dole it was the final years of Tories before labour got in. I would do anything not to sign on, farm work included. I hated being associated with the drop outs that I knew personally, because I knew they didn't mind it....That's when I started working out of town & never looked back.......It's surprising how many people won't go up the road for a job ;-)

[The one 8,577]

Its a sad fact that once on the dole they seem to prefer the dole bird life miss out paying the rent this week to pay for sky spend half the night watching shit and sleeping till afternoon tv , they actually moan if there later for a dole app and there benifit gets stopped , come on they only have to go once a feckin fortnight to sign on in there busy lives .So how are you going to get them up at 6 am to pick strawberries , rasps or gooseberries theres only one 6 on there clocks and its no the am one .

But since we started brexit the pound has fallen and its no worth a lot of the migrants coming over here most treated it as a summer holiday and trying learn english at the same time

If we do get independance i would have the dole birds grafting and they would get stamps no cash and see how many come back from public houses but thats another post

Joe could you supply the numbers of unemployed scotland has ? and how they are going to be funded in a new independent prosperous Scotland ?

[C556 351]

I wonder how the firms that rely on foreign workers coped before we were in the EU? As mechanisation increases many of the low skilled jobs that are done by foreign workers will be done by machines.

[Onlyworkmatters 1,584]

The difference in the vote in Scotland was only 600,000 with areas like Glasgow had just over 50 voting

 

Be interesting to see the real feeling about brexit if more Scots had bothered to vote

 

Might not be as pro Eu as sturgeon thinks

 

Latest poll shows a drop in support for independance

[arcticgun 4,548]

Mel Gison has an awful lot too answer for imho ???

[walshie 2,804]

It's interesting to see that even the Jocks have had a bellyful of sturgeon and her pipe dreams. She can't answer the questions posed to her and nor can Joe. I can go back through this thread and find dozens of unanswered questions aimed directly at Joe but no answer. Not having a pop Joe as I said before I admire your loyalty and optimism but it's all based on ifs and buts.

[arcticgun 4,548]

Scotland's a beautiful place with a rich history, I would hate too see them leave , mainly cos we never been apart in my time, I never seen any more issue than say us Geordies not liking them lot down south n always moaning all the money spent down south and we get nowt, but seeing Scotland as a separate country is something I could never do, if they had a disaster I would be the first to put me hands in me pocket to help em wouldn't do the same for france r anywhere else though

[Joe1888 672]

It's interesting to see that even the Jocks have had a bellyful of sturgeon and her pipe dreams. She can't answer the questions posed to her and nor can Joe. I can go back through this thread and find dozens of unanswered questions aimed directly at Joe but no answer. Not having a pop Joe as I said before I admire your loyalty and optimism but it's all based on ifs and buts.

 

I have tryed mate , I also asked you...

 

Sounds like you might be talking about the leave/ brexit vote, no one knows what's going to happen lol

 

The guns just been fired, hopefully more information will be available or they could take note of the eu leave campaign , they have provided feck all and won the vote down south..