General Licence

[moxy 617]

Hmmn..!! Saw this pigeon eating off my bird table. The food was meant for sparrows so I shot it.

I then posted it all over the web and social media.

 

It's all ok though. i can say I exhausted all other means of control before I pulled the trigger. I'm safe under the general licence.

(Most agricultural or professional horticultural examples are exempt from this purely hypothetical scenario)

 

Interesting topic.

[bigmac 97kt 13,824]

 

I shoot a lot of crows in lambing season and i mean a lot .at one of my perms

 

as they peck the eyes out of the new born lambs

 

iv seen this with my own eye,s and its not nice too see a new born lamb walking around and into things when they have no eyes .

 

But what would that come under in the G,L if it dose at all

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

 

Yes. Under the part referring to protecting flora and fauna. Nothing wrong with that.

 

I new i should of stuck in at school lol

 

atvbjimmy :thumbs:

[bigmac 97kt 13,824]

Hmmn..!! Saw this pigeon eating off my bird table. The food was meant for sparrows so I shot it.

I then posted it all over the web and social media.

 

It's all ok though. i can say I exhausted all other means of control before I pulled the trigger. I'm safe under the general licence.

(Most agricultural or professional horticultural examples are exempt from this purely hypothetical scenario)

 

Interesting topic.

NOW I KNOW I SHOULD OF STUCK IN AT SCHOOL

[walshie 2,804]

I think we should petition to get some extra circumstances added to the GL.

 

Birds can also be shot if:

 

It is suspected they might do something you don't like at some stage in the future

 

or

 

They look a bit shifty

 

or

 

They are tasty.

[bigmac 97kt 13,824]

I think we should petition to get some extra circumstances added to the GL.

 

Birds can also be shot if:

 

It is suspected they might do something you don't like at some stage in the future

 

or

 

They look a bit shifty

 

or

 

They are tasty.

:laugh:

 

:thumbs:

 

I KEEP SAY THIS BUT YOU MODS HAVE GOT TO GET A LIKE BUTTON

:yes:

[Jonjon79 13,358]

This one's definitely shifty

[toby63 1,236]

This one's definitely shifty

hes on look out duty lol

[philpot 5,072]

This is interesting because earlier this year a pal of mine has some shooting over quite a big area and was told by the farmer that he better leave the woodies alone. The reason for this was that the farmer had a visit from 'someone' who advised him that he HAD TO HAVE ACTUAL PROOF OF DAMAGE otherwise he could be taken to court.

 

Now my pal didn't say who the 'someone' was but suggested it was quite official and certainly put the wind up the farmer.

 

This could be taken out of context but it is as described to me although I thought at the time it was a load of rubbish but perhaps not.

 

Phil

[just-A-snap 1,269]

As in many things in life, some look at any law of the land and feel that as they are special it is not anything that they have to abide by. The General Licence is just one more out of all the laws that is on a daily bases disregarded as irrelevant just like Red traffic lights and some very special road users.

[The one 8,570]

So what you going to say Walshie if a anti asks why you shooting those pigeons ???

In our game if you cant think on your feet you could get your guns confiscated by the police ??.

So what would of been your answer

[walshie 2,804]

So what you going to say Walshie if a anti asks why you shooting those pigeons ???

In our game if you cant think on your feet you could get your guns confiscated by the police ??.

So what would of been your answer

 

Surely it's not about thinking on your feet. It's about complying with the GL?

 

When I shoot pigeons they are actually hammering the crops. I don't shoot them elsewhere on the off-chance.

 

That's nothing to do with being a goody-goody. I just don't get a kick from shooting birds out of trees or off bird tables. I certainly wouldn't risk my guns for the sake of a pigeon.

 

And I wouldn't even bother answering an anti.

[tomburras 2,730]

It's a ticky one walshie, I honestly think all my shooting meets the general licence but i shoot the odd pigeon over stubbles so dont know how that stands?, but in all fairness the birds have crops full of corn, beans ect. From fields next to it. Shooting on bird tables is bang out of order and hope people who do that are punished with the full force of the law.

[walshie 2,804]

It's a ticky one walshie, I honestly think all my shooting meets the general licence but i shoot the odd pigeon over stubbles so dont know how that stands?, but in all fairness the birds have crops full of corn, beans ect. From fields next to it. Shooting on bird tables is bang out of order and hope people who do that are punished with the full force of the law.

 

Speaking of bird tables did you hear about the videos on you tube by a well known airgunner? - these even ended up in the news papers! and put the sport in a very bad light and should never have happened.

 

I don't doubt you are doing your best to comply with the GL. i'm also not saying my thoughts are right and others are wrong. I think it's a subject worthy of discussion.

 

It just came up in conversation as birds are protected other than the terms of the GL.

 

Forgetting bird tables for a minute, if someone went to a spot that had nothing but grass fields for miles and miles, how could they justify shooting a pigeon? Moving on from pigeons, if the same person went to the same spot when no songbirds were nesting, how could they justify shooting a crow/magpie/jay?

 

In my opinion, they couldn't, but it's only my opinion and I'd be interested to hear others views.

 

No I hadn't heard of the youtube vids, but it doesn't surprise me. Are there any well known airgunners?

[Rabid 1,936]

 

Forgetting bird tables for a minute, if someone went to a spot that had nothing but grass fields for miles and miles, how could they justify shooting a pigeon?

 

 

 

All of my ground at present is down to grass, but it is not just any old grass, it is a feed mix and has a high percentage of clover, unfortunatly the pigeons love it for the same reasons as the cattle and sheep, therefore if I leave the pigeons to feast, they take all the clover first and some of the best grazing has been taken from the animals it's meant for.

 

I have seen days when there are 1000 plus pigeons on the grass fields, they do just as much damage on grass as any other crop.

Grass is still classed as a crop.

[walshie 2,804]

 

Forgetting bird tables for a minute, if someone went to a spot that had nothing but grass fields for miles and miles, how could they justify shooting a pigeon?

 

 

 

All of my ground at present is down to grass, but it is not just any old grass, it is a feed mix and has a high percentage of clover, unfortunatly the pigeons love it for the same reasons as the cattle and sheep, therefore if I leave the pigeons to feast, they take all the clover first and some of the best grazing has been taken from the animals it's meant for.

 

I have seen days when there are 1000 plus pigeons on the grass fields, they do just as much damage on grass as any other crop.

Grass is still classed as a crop.

 

Not disputing any of that. Maybe that's the case in certain circumstances as you described, but most grass encountered when out isn't feed grass. I think using that as an argument in most situations would be clutching at straws a bit .