shepp 2,285 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Maybe none of these dogs that have killed children recently are staffs. Staff x mastiff or staff cross American bulldog etc basically anything that produces a big powerful dog for people who go for that sort of thing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 12,022 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 ive never owned a bad staffi yet ,but they have always been trained properly,people that leave young kids in a room with any dog are asking for troubleI have about 10 year ago,a brindle bitch bought as 8 week pup ,it was about 18 months old,when it attacked my shepherd Lurcher I went to separate them,it was that fired up it snapped at me, I hit it once,then grabbed its lead an took it straight into vets PTS.What was the reason the staff attacked the lurcher.From what I can gather the lurcher had the nerve to walk inbetween me an the staff, we was out in back garden,I had the lurcher before the staff as well, the staff wasnt a tall one,but she wasn't one of these roly poly types either . So you got the dog pts? Let's rephrase that, you got a dog killed that is a sporting dog breed bred to fight for attacking another dog, and because you panicked and stuck your hand in between them she went for you? I hope your lurcher doesn't chase small animals, unless that to fancies a one way trip to the vets!!! The issue is nuggets choking a dogs natarul instinct, I've said this before but when a dog stops being bred for its original use, that's when the bother starts No I didn't panic ,I was pissy because the dog was trying to rip my lurcher up,a dog which I couldn't use if in sickbay, an I was going for their collars not their jaws ffs. Why would I keep a dog that tried to bite me , if it's going to bite its owner who walks an feeds it what would it do to someone else,or one of me kids.. Maybe it's people,that say it's alright he didn't mean to or he's only playing that get in the situations you see in the press, And yes I don't know much about fighting dogs but I was under the assumption a dog in the pit fired up that would bite it's owner/handler wouldn't be that great a dog to have ,or am I wrong? I also prefer to be relaxed around my dogs not constantly on guard incase I'm going to get bit. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 ive never owned a bad staffi yet ,but they have always been trained properly,people that leave young kids in a room with any dog are asking for troubleI have about 10 year ago,a brindle bitch bought as 8 week pup ,it was about 18 months old,when it attacked my shepherd Lurcher I went to separate them,it was that fired up it snapped at me, I hit it once,then grabbed its lead an took it straight into vets PTS.What was the reason the staff attacked the lurcher.From what I can gather the lurcher had the nerve to walk inbetween me an the staff, we was out in back garden,I had the lurcher before the staff as well, the staff wasnt a tall one,but she wasn't one of these roly poly types either .So you got the dog pts? Let's rephrase that, you got a dog killed that is a sporting dog breed bred to fight for attacking another dog, and because you panicked and stuck your hand in between them she went for you? I hope your lurcher doesn't chase small animals, unless that to fancies a one way trip to the vets!!! The issue is nuggets choking a dogs natarul instinct, I've said this before but when a dog stops being bred for its original use, that's when the bother startsSo you are saying nobody should own a staff unless they use it for its original use.Bollocks Yeah, dog showing.....The 1 and only reason every dog breed exists.Is from working dogs. So people who dont want to work dogs.aint allowed a dog. Bollocks But the Staff was bred to be a show dog. The Staffordshire Bull Terrier was bred to be left with the kids, while mum and dad went to work. They were once known as "the nanny dog" and, to this day, they are the only dog whose breed standard states that they "must be good with people, especially children".... I've owned several, over the years, and I've found them to be loyal, brave and surprisingly intelligent (a lot of people think they're a bit thick !) - but then I treated them all as they should be - as dogs, not a weapon to intimidate people, or as 'daddys little baby'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 12,030 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 ive never owned a bad staffi yet ,but they have always been trained properly,people that leave young kids in a room with any dog are asking for troubleI have about 10 year ago,a brindle bitch bought as 8 week pup ,it was about 18 months old,when it attacked my shepherd Lurcher I went to separate them,it was that fired up it snapped at me, I hit it once,then grabbed its lead an took it straight into vets PTS.What was the reason the staff attacked the lurcher.From what I can gather the lurcher had the nerve to walk inbetween me an the staff, we was out in back garden,I had the lurcher before the staff as well, the staff wasnt a tall one,but she wasn't one of these roly poly types either .So you got the dog pts? Let's rephrase that, you got a dog killed that is a sporting dog breed bred to fight for attacking another dog, and because you panicked and stuck your hand in between them she went for you? I hope your lurcher doesn't chase small animals, unless that to fancies a one way trip to the vets!!! The issue is nuggets choking a dogs natarul instinct, I've said this before but when a dog stops being bred for its original use, that's when the bother startsSo you are saying nobody should own a staff unless they use it for its original use.Bollocks Yeah, dog showing.....The 1 and only reason every dog breed exists.Is from working dogs. So people who dont want to work dogs.aint allowed a dog. Bollocks But the Staff was bred to be a show dog. Same as the shire horse then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 ive never owned a bad staffi yet ,but they have always been trained properly,people that leave young kids in a room with any dog are asking for troubleI have about 10 year ago,a brindle bitch bought as 8 week pup ,it was about 18 months old,when it attacked my shepherd Lurcher I went to separate them,it was that fired up it snapped at me, I hit it once,then grabbed its lead an took it straight into vets PTS.What was the reason the staff attacked the lurcher.From what I can gather the lurcher had the nerve to walk inbetween me an the staff, we was out in back garden,I had the lurcher before the staff as well, the staff wasnt a tall one,but she wasn't one of these roly poly types either .So you got the dog pts? Let's rephrase that, you got a dog killed that is a sporting dog breed bred to fight for attacking another dog, and because you panicked and stuck your hand in between them she went for you? I hope your lurcher doesn't chase small animals, unless that to fancies a one way trip to the vets!!! The issue is nuggets choking a dogs natarul instinct, I've said this before but when a dog stops being bred for its original use, that's when the bother startsSo you are saying nobody should own a staff unless they use it for its original use.Bollocks Yeah, dog showing.....The 1 and only reason every dog breed exists.Is from working dogs. So people who dont want to work dogs.aint allowed a dog. Bollocks But the Staff was bred to be a show dog.The Staffordshire Bull Terrier was bred to be left with the kids, while mum and dad went to work. They were once known as "the nanny dog" and, to this day, they are the only dog whose breed standard states that they "must be good with people, especially children".... I've owned several, over the years, and I've found them to be loyal, brave and surprisingly intelligent (a lot of people think they're a bit thick !) - but then I treated them all as they should be - as dogs, not a weapon to intimidate people, or as 'daddys little baby'. But that's not the reason they were bred. They were bred by folk who didn't have the stomach for matching and wanted a tidy looking animal that resembled the pit dogs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 12,030 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 ive never owned a bad staffi yet ,but they have always been trained properly,people that leave young kids in a room with any dog are asking for troubleI have about 10 year ago,a brindle bitch bought as 8 week pup ,it was about 18 months old,when it attacked my shepherd Lurcher I went to separate them,it was that fired up it snapped at me, I hit it once,then grabbed its lead an took it straight into vets PTS.What was the reason the staff attacked the lurcher.From what I can gather the lurcher had the nerve to walk inbetween me an the staff, we was out in back garden,I had the lurcher before the staff as well, the staff wasnt a tall one,but she wasn't one of these roly poly types either .So you got the dog pts? Let's rephrase that, you got a dog killed that is a sporting dog breed bred to fight for attacking another dog, and because you panicked and stuck your hand in between them she went for you? I hope your lurcher doesn't chase small animals, unless that to fancies a one way trip to the vets!!! The issue is nuggets choking a dogs natarul instinct, I've said this before but when a dog stops being bred for its original use, that's when the bother startsSo you are saying nobody should own a staff unless they use it for its original use.Bollocks Yeah, dog showing.....The 1 and only reason every dog breed exists.Is from working dogs. So people who dont want to work dogs.aint allowed a dog. Bollocks But the Staff was bred to be a show dog. The Staffordshire Bull Terrier was bred to be left with the kids, while mum and dad went to work. They were once known as "the nanny dog" and, to this day, they are the only dog whose breed standard states that they "must be good with people, especially children".... I've owned several, over the years, and I've found them to be loyal, brave and surprisingly intelligent (a lot of people think they're a bit thick !) - but then I treated them all as they should be - as dogs, not a weapon to intimidate people, or as 'daddys little baby'. But that's not the reason they were bred. They were bred by folk who didn't have the stomach for matching and wanted a tidy looking animal that resembled the pit dogs. Is this the reason they were bred. Or was you around way back in the day and seen with your own eyes. Why the staffs were bred. http://www.thestaffordshirebullterrier.co.uk/history.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 12,030 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Old pic of a bitch i had.holly. Bullet proof around my 3 lads [BANNED TEXT] they were growing up. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 ive never owned a bad staffi yet ,but they have always been trained properly,people that leave young kids in a room with any dog are asking for troubleI have about 10 year ago,a brindle bitch bought as 8 week pup ,it was about 18 months old,when it attacked my shepherd Lurcher I went to separate them,it was that fired up it snapped at me, I hit it once,then grabbed its lead an took it straight into vets PTS.What was the reason the staff attacked the lurcher.From what I can gather the lurcher had the nerve to walk inbetween me an the staff, we was out in back garden,I had the lurcher before the staff as well, the staff wasnt a tall one,but she wasn't one of these roly poly types either .So you got the dog pts? Let's rephrase that, you got a dog killed that is a sporting dog breed bred to fight for attacking another dog, and because you panicked and stuck your hand in between them she went for you? I hope your lurcher doesn't chase small animals, unless that to fancies a one way trip to the vets!!! The issue is nuggets choking a dogs natarul instinct, I've said this before but when a dog stops being bred for its original use, that's when the bother startsSo you are saying nobody should own a staff unless they use it for its original use.Bollocks Yeah, dog showing.....The 1 and only reason every dog breed exists.Is from working dogs. So people who dont want to work dogs.aint allowed a dog. Bollocks But the Staff was bred to be a show dog. The Staffordshire Bull Terrier was bred to be left with the kids, while mum and dad went to work. They were once known as "the nanny dog" and, to this day, they are the only dog whose breed standard states that they "must be good with people, especially children".... I've owned several, over the years, and I've found them to be loyal, brave and surprisingly intelligent (a lot of people think they're a bit thick !) - but then I treated them all as they should be - as dogs, not a weapon to intimidate people, or as 'daddys little baby'. But that's not the reason they were bred. They were bred by folk who didn't have the stomach for matching and wanted a tidy looking animal that resembled the pit dogs. Is this the reason they were bred. Or was you around way back in the day and seen with your own eyes. Why the staffs were bred. http://www.thestaffordshirebullterrier.co.uk/history.htm Lots of references to loyalty to friends and children, like I said. My last one was a lovely bitch, from the Bold Bull kennel - the only danger she ever presented was that she might lick you to death ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 ive never owned a bad staffi yet ,but they have always been trained properly,people that leave young kids in a room with any dog are asking for troubleI have about 10 year ago,a brindle bitch bought as 8 week pup ,it was about 18 months old,when it attacked my shepherd Lurcher I went to separate them,it was that fired up it snapped at me, I hit it once,then grabbed its lead an took it straight into vets PTS.What was the reason the staff attacked the lurcher.From what I can gather the lurcher had the nerve to walk inbetween me an the staff, we was out in back garden,I had the lurcher before the staff as well, the staff wasnt a tall one,but she wasn't one of these roly poly types either .So you got the dog pts? Let's rephrase that, you got a dog killed that is a sporting dog breed bred to fight for attacking another dog, and because you panicked and stuck your hand in between them she went for you? I hope your lurcher doesn't chase small animals, unless that to fancies a one way trip to the vets!!! The issue is nuggets choking a dogs natarul instinct, I've said this before but when a dog stops being bred for its original use, that's when the bother startsSo you are saying nobody should own a staff unless they use it for its original use.Bollocks Yeah, dog showing.....The 1 and only reason every dog breed exists.Is from working dogs. So people who dont want to work dogs.aint allowed a dog. Bollocks But the Staff was bred to be a show dog. The Staffordshire Bull Terrier was bred to be left with the kids, while mum and dad went to work. They were once known as "the nanny dog" and, to this day, they are the only dog whose breed standard states that they "must be good with people, especially children".... I've owned several, over the years, and I've found them to be loyal, brave and surprisingly intelligent (a lot of people think they're a bit thick !) - but then I treated them all as they should be - as dogs, not a weapon to intimidate people, or as 'daddys little baby'. But that's not the reason they were bred. They were bred by folk who didn't have the stomach for matching and wanted a tidy looking animal that resembled the pit dogs. Is this the reason they were bred. Or was you around way back in the day and seen with your own eyes. Why the staffs were bred. http://www.thestaffordshirebullterrier.co.uk/history.htm Ok then...... the Staff has been officially bred to be a show dog for years plus but you know best.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 12,030 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 ive never owned a bad staffi yet ,but they have always been trained properly,people that leave young kids in a room with any dog are asking for troubleI have about 10 year ago,a brindle bitch bought as 8 week pup ,it was about 18 months old,when it attacked my shepherd Lurcher I went to separate them,it was that fired up it snapped at me, I hit it once,then grabbed its lead an took it straight into vets PTS.What was the reason the staff attacked the lurcher.From what I can gather the lurcher had the nerve to walk inbetween me an the staff, we was out in back garden,I had the lurcher before the staff as well, the staff wasnt a tall one,but she wasn't one of these roly poly types either .So you got the dog pts? Let's rephrase that, you got a dog killed that is a sporting dog breed bred to fight for attacking another dog, and because you panicked and stuck your hand in between them she went for you? I hope your lurcher doesn't chase small animals, unless that to fancies a one way trip to the vets!!! The issue is nuggets choking a dogs natarul instinct, I've said this before but when a dog stops being bred for its original use, that's when the bother startsSo you are saying nobody should own a staff unless they use it for its original use.Bollocks Yeah, dog showing.....The 1 and only reason every dog breed exists.Is from working dogs. So people who dont want to work dogs.aint allowed a dog. Bollocks But the Staff was bred to be a show dog. The Staffordshire Bull Terrier was bred to be left with the kids, while mum and dad went to work. They were once known as "the nanny dog" and, to this day, they are the only dog whose breed standard states that they "must be good with people, especially children".... I've owned several, over the years, and I've found them to be loyal, brave and surprisingly intelligent (a lot of people think they're a bit thick !) - but then I treated them all as they should be - as dogs, not a weapon to intimidate people, or as 'daddys little baby'. But that's not the reason they were bred. They were bred by folk who didn't have the stomach for matching and wanted a tidy looking animal that resembled the pit dogs. Is this the reason they were bred. Or was you around way back in the day and seen with your own eyes. Why the staffs were bred. http://www.thestaffordshirebullterrier.co.uk/history.htm Ok then...... the Staff has been officially bred to be a show dog for years plus but you know best.... You said the staff was bred for a show dog. So back in the day did someone say lets cross a terrier and bulldog so we can show them lol. We aint interested in working ability or what the cross can bring to the table. We just want to show them and win rossettes lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,437 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Old pic of a bitch i had.holly. Bullet proof around my 3 lads [bANNED TEXT] they were growing up. holly011_20161014_144444.jpg She's a nice type pal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 ive never owned a bad staffi yet ,but they have always been trained properly,people that leave young kids in a room with any dog are asking for troubleI have about 10 year ago,a brindle bitch bought as 8 week pup ,it was about 18 months old,when it attacked my shepherd Lurcher I went to separate them,it was that fired up it snapped at me, I hit it once,then grabbed its lead an took it straight into vets PTS.What was the reason the staff attacked the lurcher.From what I can gather the lurcher had the nerve to walk inbetween me an the staff, we was out in back garden,I had the lurcher before the staff as well, the staff wasnt a tall one,but she wasn't one of these roly poly types either .So you got the dog pts? Let's rephrase that, you got a dog killed that is a sporting dog breed bred to fight for attacking another dog, and because you panicked and stuck your hand in between them she went for you? I hope your lurcher doesn't chase small animals, unless that to fancies a one way trip to the vets!!! The issue is nuggets choking a dogs natarul instinct, I've said this before but when a dog stops being bred for its original use, that's when the bother startsSo you are saying nobody should own a staff unless they use it for its original use.Bollocks Yeah, dog showing.....The 1 and only reason every dog breed exists.Is from working dogs. So people who dont want to work dogs.aint allowed a dog. Bollocks But the Staff was bred to be a show dog. The Staffordshire Bull Terrier was bred to be left with the kids, while mum and dad went to work. They were once known as "the nanny dog" and, to this day, they are the only dog whose breed standard states that they "must be good with people, especially children".... I've owned several, over the years, and I've found them to be loyal, brave and surprisingly intelligent (a lot of people think they're a bit thick !) - but then I treated them all as they should be - as dogs, not a weapon to intimidate people, or as 'daddys little baby'. But that's not the reason they were bred. They were bred by folk who didn't have the stomach for matching and wanted a tidy looking animal that resembled the pit dogs. Is this the reason they were bred. Or was you around way back in the day and seen with your own eyes. Why the staffs were bred. http://www.thestaffordshirebullterrier.co.uk/history.htm Ok then...... the Staff has been officially bred to be a show dog for years plus but you know best.... You said the staff was bred for a show dog. So back in the day did someone say lets cross a terrier and bulldog so we can show them lol. We aint interested in working ability or what the cross can bring to the table. We just want to show them and win rossettes lol But they weren't the Staff were they? They are the dogs that went on to become the APBT.... Fanciers from Staffordshire bred the dogs for their looks, sometimes you gotta think out of the box King boy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 12,030 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Old pic of a bitch i had.holly. Bullet proof around my 3 lads [bANNED TEXT] they were growing up.holly011_20161014_144444.jpg She's a nice type pal She was the most layed back dog ive ever owned. the lads used to ride her around the house like a pony lol. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 12,030 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 ive never owned a bad staffi yet ,but they have always been trained properly,people that leave young kids in a room with any dog are asking for troubleI have about 10 year ago,a brindle bitch bought as 8 week pup ,it was about 18 months old,when it attacked my shepherd Lurcher I went to separate them,it was that fired up it snapped at me, I hit it once,then grabbed its lead an took it straight into vets PTS.What was the reason the staff attacked the lurcher.From what I can gather the lurcher had the nerve to walk inbetween me an the staff, we was out in back garden,I had the lurcher before the staff as well, the staff wasnt a tall one,but she wasn't one of these roly poly types either .So you got the dog pts? Let's rephrase that, you got a dog killed that is a sporting dog breed bred to fight for attacking another dog, and because you panicked and stuck your hand in between them she went for you? I hope your lurcher doesn't chase small animals, unless that to fancies a one way trip to the vets!!! The issue is nuggets choking a dogs natarul instinct, I've said this before but when a dog stops being bred for its original use, that's when the bother startsSo you are saying nobody should own a staff unless they use it for its original use.Bollocks Yeah, dog showing.....The 1 and only reason every dog breed exists.Is from working dogs. So people who dont want to work dogs.aint allowed a dog. Bollocks But the Staff was bred to be a show dog. The Staffordshire Bull Terrier was bred to be left with the kids, while mum and dad went to work. They were once known as "the nanny dog" and, to this day, they are the only dog whose breed standard states that they "must be good with people, especially children".... I've owned several, over the years, and I've found them to be loyal, brave and surprisingly intelligent (a lot of people think they're a bit thick !) - but then I treated them all as they should be - as dogs, not a weapon to intimidate people, or as 'daddys little baby'. But that's not the reason they were bred. They were bred by folk who didn't have the stomach for matching and wanted a tidy looking animal that resembled the pit dogs. Is this the reason they were bred. Or was you around way back in the day and seen with your own eyes. Why the staffs were bred. http://www.thestaffordshirebullterrier.co.uk/history.htm Ok then...... the Staff has been officially bred to be a show dog for years plus but you know best.... You said the staff was bred for a show dog. So back in the day did someone say lets cross a terrier and bulldog so we can show them lol. We aint interested in working ability or what the cross can bring to the table. We just want to show them and win rossettes lol But they weren't the Staff were they? They are the dogs that went on to become the APBT.... Fanciers from Staffordshire bred the dogs for their looks, sometimes you gotta think out of the box King boy. I remember my old mate a staff man. Telling me that no 1 man can be good at everything. But you seem to be an expert on every topic on thl 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arcticgun 4,548 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Educating kids at school is a great idea to be honest it's best Ive heard, show them how too handle and respect dogs Banning anything rarely serves anything positive in fact it's usually the reverse Really feel for the breed and they not a dog I've ever had much time for, they the most popular breed in rescue centres along with crosses off them being a close second, shame they been bred too much reducing the price too peanuts used to be real expensive ped staffs once over The owners are always responsible in these cases imho it's plain wrong too leave dog or dogs alone with kids, very harsh lesson too learn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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