flynndog 543 Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) Pmd you rez Edited October 17, 2016 by flynndog Quote Link to post
foxtails 272 Posted October 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 unless i need glasses at 40 metres away, the scopes i have, are not the best that one could have shooting from that way away, ect. .....im gonna try and get a better scope to be honest ! FT Quote Link to post
Rez 4,961 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Pmd you rez Only just seen to flyyndoooooogggggg. Sorry mate. Quote Link to post
philpot 5,067 Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Rez, give Crawfords in Scunthorpe a call because he has a couple of simmons scopes in his s/h section, if he has a WTC, I will pick it up for you and meet up to hand it over before I bugger off to Suffolk again. If he has one and you want me to get it, just tell him Phil Roberts will collect. Phil Quote Link to post
tomburras 2,730 Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 unless i need glasses at 40 metres away, the scopes i have, are not the best that one could have shooting from that way away, ect. .....im gonna try and get a better scope to be honest ! FT Here's a decent cheap scope...... Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262678460988 Quote Link to post
philpot 5,067 Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 I have one of these on permanent loan to my son in law and to be honest, they are a decent scope. I think the newer one would focus down to 10mt but the one I had was still quite blurred at 14mt and not quite pin sharp at 15-16mt so very tiring on the eyes for close range stuff like plinking in my little cottage garden of 15mt. That one in the ebay advert is worth a punt but not for me, must be AO. Phil 1 Quote Link to post
tomburras 2,730 Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Completely agree Phil. But for £32 quid it's a nice purchase for a starter and a big improvement on his current scope. Push the boat out for ao would be even better! Quote Link to post
foxtails 272 Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 unless i need glasses at 40 metres away, the scopes i have, are not the best that one could have shooting from that way away, ect. .....im gonna try and get a better scope to be honest ! FT Here's a decent cheap scope...... Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262678460988 i thought the scopes that i have are the set up from these ...? atb FT Quote Link to post
foxtails 272 Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 thanks guys for the info..... but what is the next best cheap scope on the market thanks again ATB FT Quote Link to post
tomburras 2,730 Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 I have a friend with the scope you baught on a springer and the glass fell out of it I kid you not I have the lenses at work. The hawke mil dot scope is dirt cheap and does the job. For £32 I can't belive what you get offered there. I paid £60 for same scope without ao but with the useless illuminated reticule few weeks ago in a shop. Quote Link to post
philpot 5,067 Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) Possibly for the money, a Nikko Mountmaster AO. The one I have just swapped a BSA scope for, whilst not having the best glass is still pretty good for the price. It is quite light, focus down to 10mt, recticle not too thick, easy to read mildots, 3-9x40mm offering a good hunting range. I was always under the impression that these were really crap scopes but they are not at all BUT and there is always a 'but', in my opinion, it needs a sun shade as it seems to flare quite easily and as far as I am aware, they don't make one which is a shame. Now I am going to make one from plastic drain pipe or plastic of some kind which I believe make quite a difference. Don't get me wrong about these scopes, would I buy one for myself.................no, but that is because you get used to using better quality scopes so don't want to go backwards. If on the other hand, I needed a scope for a purpose, cheap ratter, set up for my grandson, wife or whatever, I would be quite happy to buy one of these scopes but AO for sure and in preference to the Hawke Sport. £42.99, you cannot go wrong at that. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Nikko-MOUNTMASTER-3-9x40-PX-AO-Parallax-Zoom-Rifle-SCOPE-Sight-with-MOUNTS-/351192223670?hash=item51c4b00fb6:g:Sa0AAMXQfvlSd5pt Phil Edited October 21, 2016 by philpot Quote Link to post
barrywhite 282 Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Possibly for the money, a Nikko Mountmaster AO. The one I have just swapped a BSA scope for, whilst not having the best glass is still pretty good for the price. It is quite light, focus down to 10mt, recticle not too thick, easy to read mildots, 3-9x40mm offering a good hunting range. I was always under the impression that these were really crap scopes but they are not at all BUT and there is always a 'but', in my opinion, it needs a sun shade as it seems to flare quite easily and as far as I am aware, they don't make one which is a shame. Now I am going to make one from plastic drain pipe or plastic of some kind which I believe make quite a difference. Don't get me wrong about these scopes, would I buy one for myself.................no, but that is because you get used to using better quality scopes so don't want to go backwards. If on the other hand, I needed a scope for a purpose, cheap ratter, set up for my grandson, wife or whatever, I would be quite happy to buy one of these scopes but AO for sure and in preference to the Hawke Sport. £42.99, you cannot go wrong at that. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Nikko-MOUNTMASTER-3-9x40-PX-AO-Parallax-Zoom-Rifle-SCOPE-Sight-with-MOUNTS-/351192223670?hash=item51c4b00fb6:g:Sa0AAMXQfvlSd5pt Phil I would not recommend this scope .I have one evrything about this scope and mounts are very good except for one thing it WILL NOT HOLD ITS ZERO . It is a pity it may just be my scope but if you want an inch or more groups at 20 yards this scope is the one . Quote Link to post
philpot 5,067 Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 That is interesting, I have no knowledge on this aspect as I only picked it up last week and been plinking in the garden so not enough time spent using it. There are a hell of lot of them around and not heard of this issue before so from my point, only time will tell but in truth it isn't likely to get much use to be honest although it may go on my TX for a while. Phil Quote Link to post
gamerooster 1,179 Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Funnily enough I got a tx200 yesterday and that came with a nikko sterling mount master, was hitting a marble sized grouping at 25 yards this morning, but as I changed the zoom the crosshairs moved!!! So I'll be on the look out for a new scope Quote Link to post
philpot 5,067 Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) If you set the scope, most scopes to zero at a given mag setting, get it shooting spot on, then change mag, the zero will also change. If you put it back to the original mag, I assume the zero is spot on again or is that not the case. I have two sets of zero settings, one at 6x and one at 12x on my MTC Genesis scope. I just did a set for 12x if I was struggling to see. To be very honest I have never used the 12x (eyes must be better than I thought) and only did this as I remember when I first started learning holdover principles, it was stated that zero WILL move with different mags and I have simply stuck to that principle even though the degree of movement may be very small. Perhaps dependent on the scope as well. Phil Edited October 23, 2016 by philpot Quote Link to post
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