desertbred 5,490 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) I'm sure there are cases where it's real. But there's many more where you're watching propaganda footage, and even that is heavily edited and taken out of context. If watch clips like this and it makes your piss boil, then congratulations you're part of their experiment. Taken out of context lol that's what Islamic apologists always say , if you knew sharia law then you would know it was real. image.jpeg A list compiled by Islamaphobes. Muslim women fighting alongside males in Syria but they are not allowed to talk to males who are not relatives LOL Muslim women are not allowed to drive cars yet even in Wahabi Saudia they fly commercial airliners and F17 fighter planes. Death to Muslim women who marry nom Muslims just two .examples George Cloonies Wife and THE female Muslim Joutnalist AliBhai Brown who is London based I could should I have the time to waste or the inclination refute every single statement on the list but as I get amusement from reading such knuckle draggers submissions crack on. LOLcan you out up the real sharia law rules up for us then DB, just so we can see what it's about mate? Atb AtIt would be interesting to know which of the rules on that list are not true Ask Ragumuppit he seems to be under the impression hes got islamic knowledge I know everything you dirty fat diabetic piece of Shiite... Lol "OFFER WITHDRAWN "after reading his post to Mr Jones a few posts down I would be embarrassed to give him a slap. Edited August 22, 2016 by desertbred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Desert we all know what goes on in the Muslim world in regards to women.. ffs it goes on in Iran also man.What goes on in the western world more pimps per square meter ,domestic violence rapes than anywhere so kettle black comes to mindballs I didnt ask what held your ears apart idiot, Check the statistics compiled by your own people clownStats mate,ok rape capital of the western world is sweden and muslims immigrants are 23 times more likely to commit a rape than swedish men,you also mentioned pimps in the west but failed to mention the 30,000+ prostitutes in dubai alone,as for domestic violence,well,how many incidences of domestic violence,rape etc go unreported in muslim countries,imagine trying to report a rape in saudi........ Most ot he prostitutes in Dubai are from Europe and the USSR and cater for the European and American transit passengers and work for European and Russian pimps. Your making a lot of assumptions arent you. Britain is the capital for domestic violence against male and females , strange a man as well travelled as yourself is devoid of actual facts. who are most of the punters in the sex shops of the Far East ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,515 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Dont get your knickers in a twist,if the UK is the domestic violence capital it might be because the country is more transparent than say indonesia,pakistan or saudi,no?You just said more pimps per square meter in the west,now you shift the goalposts to LOS and SEA,DB theres even brothels in peshawar with chinese women brought down the karakoram,and i am not decoid of facts,the swedish rape stats are fact,rapes 23 times more likely from a muslim immigrant than a swedish guy,check it out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,515 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Theres 20 countries in the world that havent outlawed domestic violence so there are no figures from them...........l Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Dont get your knickers in a twist,if the UK is the domestic violence capital it might be because the country is more transparent than say indonesia,pakistan or saudi,no?You just said more pimps per square meter in the west,now you shift the goalposts to LOS and SEA,DB theres even brothels in peshawar with chinese women brought down the karakoram,and i am not decoid of facts,the swedish rape stats are fact,rapes 23 times more likely from a muslim immigrant than a swedish guy,check it out. Where are these Peshawar chinese Brothels ? As for rapes Sweden has always had higher than average rape cases and statistics because the Muslims have no doubt committed some its easier to manipulate statistics to fit the Agenda if its as you say why the Swedish doors are not firmly closed defies logic or your argument is flawed to say the least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Theres 20 countries in the world that havent outlawed domestic violence so there are no figures from them...........l Domestic violence in Northern Ireland as in the South is illegal yet its well known when the bars are shut. Uk has a less than enviable record on domestic violence so certainly is not a shining example of female emancipation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,515 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Your right old bean,UK shouldnt have any domestic violence percentages,its not a bad place for women,you know it and i know it,compared to say pakistan? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence_in_Pakistan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,515 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Dont get your knickers in a twist,if the UK is the domestic violence capital it might be because the country is more transparent than say indonesia,pakistan or saudi,no?You just said more pimps per square meter in the west,now you shift the goalposts to LOS and SEA,DB theres even brothels in peshawar with chinese women brought down the karakoram,and i am not decoid of facts,the swedish rape stats are fact,rapes 23 times more likely from a muslim immigrant than a swedish guy,check it out. Where are these Peshawar chinese Brothels ? As for rapes Sweden has always had higher than average rape cases and statistics because the Muslims have no doubt committed some its easier to manipulate statistics to fit the Agenda if its as you say why the Swedish doors are not firmly closed defies logic or your argument is flawed to say the least.Its not my argument mate,its statistics about sweden,i am not manipulating them.There were brothels in peshawar,'pindi and islamabad back in the 90's mate,i have no reason to make them up,pakistanis used to use tem if they had the cash,and also buy alcohol brought down from Kashgar across the highway,if you werent aware of it it doesnt mean it didnt happen,the same way brothels were in tashkurgan and kashgar to cater for pakistani traders going over for kashgar market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Chris you normally present a well thought out balanced argument but there is no way you can convince me that not every scouser is a thief lol ........ SCOUSERPHOBE! should I have the time to waste or the inclination refute every single statement on the list but as I get amusement from reading such knuckle draggers submissions crack on. LOL You're wasting your time DB. Unless you're playing to their narrative they're going to call you out as a liar. If you're going debunk anything they're not going to read past the first couple of sentences, if it challenges their bias confirmation they're not going to read any of it. They deal purely in stereotypes and whatever Newscorp puts out. Shit, we've even established, on this thread, that it doesn't matter if it's bullshit they'll believe and circulate it if it conforms to their view of the world! Fatbred ,You see everything from Iranian Shiite point of view so you Muddy the waters trying to confuse us knuckle draggers but I can see through it ... But can you? Many moons ago you put out some well balanced, convincingly thought out shit... Now you've basically said that if it confirms what you believe it doesn't matter whether it was true. or not. That's confused the shit out of me. Was it a blow to the head during a rugby game, or something? I thought you were sharper than that. Iv never been sharp ...I'm more tired of trying to explain stuff properly now. If any one REALLY looked in to stuff Iv posted in the past ( you clearly haven't ) then they would be agreeing not trying to justify Islamic words/actions as they would know as I do that Islam is designed to confuse and its winning the propergander war. why is the Koran all jumbled up with the longest verses and the shortish verses so you can't make sence of it ,who did that and why ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Chris you normally present a well thought out balanced argument but there is no way you can convince me that not every scouser is a thief lol ........ SCOUSERPHOBE! should I have the time to waste or the inclination refute every single statement on the list but as I get amusement from reading such knuckle draggers submissions crack on. LOL You're wasting your time DB. Unless you're playing to their narrative they're going to call you out as a liar. If you're going debunk anything they're not going to read past the first couple of sentences, if it challenges their bias confirmation they're not going to read any of it. They deal purely in stereotypes and whatever Newscorp puts out. Shit, we've even established, on this thread, that it doesn't matter if it's bullshit they'll believe and circulate it if it conforms to their view of the world! Fatbred ,You see everything from Iranian Shiite point of view so you Muddy the waters trying to confuse us knuckle draggers but I can see through it ... But can you? Many moons ago you put out some well balanced, convincingly thought out shit... Now you've basically said that if it confirms what you believe it doesn't matter whether it was true. or not. That's confused the shit out of me. Was it a blow to the head during a rugby game, or something? I thought you were sharper than that. Iv never been sharp ...I'm more tired of trying to explain stuff properly now. If any one REALLY looked in to stuff Iv posted in the past ( you clearly haven't ) then they would be agreeing not trying to justify Islamic words/actions as they would know as I do that Islam is designed to confuse and its winning the propergander war. why is the Koran all jumbled up with the longest verses and the shortish verses so you can't make sence of it ,who did that and why ? LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Iv never been sharp ...I'm more tired of trying to explain stuff properly now. If any one REALLY looked in to stuff Iv posted in the past ( you clearly haven't ) then they would be agreeing not trying to justify Islamic words/actions as they would know as I do that Islam is designed to confuse and its winning the propergander war.why is the Koran all jumbled up with the longest verses and the shortish verses so you can't make sence of it ,who did that and why ? I disagree, and like I said you have put up some well thought out stuff back through time. The problem I have with reading everyone's stuff is that I don't use the forum for months at a time so all the things that happen in between I'm just not aware of. The constant threads about Islam that descend into chaos, get really old, really quick and I don't usually read them any more. Now if we want to get into my thoughts on religious faith it's for another thread. Or just pull up some of the old stuff where you'll see I'm clearly not an apologist for any organised religion. The only point I tried to make on this thread is that it was a badly made video clip, and proves absolutely nothing at all. That clip does nothing more than fill a gap in your attention span for a couple of minutes. Before I knew it came from a documentary it could of been made by anyone, for any reason. After I knew it became even more laughable because they can do so much better. The big surprise, from all of this, is that regardless of it's authenticity people will believe it's legit, even if it isn't, and despite the fact that most posters on here say they don't trust the media they will openly swallow the propaganda because it fits the narrative. That is batshit insane. There are plenty of other videos that show many, many, atrocities. Many of them are way better propaganda pieces than this one. Many more are genuinely filmed documented crimes that show all concerned in an awful way. Yet this clip was chosen... If we want to get stuck into the crimes committed in the name of God you'll find that we agree, more than we don't, but if you're going to bring in a copy of The Exorcist and tell me it's proof of demonic possession I'm going to call you on it whether I agree with you, or not. Don't bring feelings to a facts fight! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,893 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Most of what I know about Islam is through research and out of the horses mouth, for example; Iranian teenagers being hounded and beaten by police in Iran for frantanising together. Saudi Arabian women not being allowed to drive, uncover or leave the house unattended. I have hundreds more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Most of what I know about Islam is through research and out of the horses mouth, for example; Iranian teenagers being hounded and beaten by police in Iran for frantanising together. Saudi Arabian women not being allowed to drive, uncover or leave the house unattended. I have hundreds more. Saudia and the other theifdoms of the Bedous around the Persian Gulf little impresses me about them. As for Iran every one you produce criticising I will give you 10 about the Civilised Western Democracies. Go research the Shah and his Fathers Dynasties that were imposed on the Iranian people by the British pre Revolution. My experiences and those of family and relatives are first hand not some idle chatter or fabricated accounts.So what is your point? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Iv never been sharp ...I'm more tired of trying to explain stuff properly now. If any one REALLY looked in to stuff Iv posted in the past ( you clearly haven't ) then they would be agreeing not trying to justify Islamic words/actions as they would know as I do that Islam is designed to confuse and its winning the propergander war. why is the Koran all jumbled up with the longest verses and the shortish verses so you can't make sence of it ,who did that and why ? I disagree, and like I said you have put up some well thought out stuff back through time. The problem I have with reading everyone's stuff is that I don't use the forum for months at a time so all the things that happen in between I'm just not aware of. The constant threads about Islam that descend into chaos, get really old, really quick and I don't usually read them any more. Now if we want to get into my thoughts on religious faith it's for another thread. Or just pull up some of the old stuff where you'll see I'm clearly not an apologist for any organised religion. The only point I tried to make on this thread is that it was a badly made video clip, and proves absolutely nothing at all. That clip does nothing more than fill a gap in your attention span for a couple of minutes. Before I knew it came from a documentary it could of been made by anyone, for any reason. After I knew it became even more laughable because they can do so much better. The big surprise, from all of this, is that regardless of it's authenticity people will believe it's legit, even if it isn't, and despite the fact that most posters on here say they don't trust the media they will openly swallow the propaganda because it fits the narrative. That is batshit insane. There are plenty of other videos that show many, many, atrocities. Many of them are way better propaganda pieces than this one. Many more are genuinely filmed documented crimes that show all concerned in an awful way. Yet this clip was chosen... If we want to get stuck into the crimes committed in the name of God you'll find that we agree, more than we don't, but if you're going to bring in a copy of The Exorcist and tell me it's proof of demonic possession I'm going to call you on it whether I agree with you, or not. Don't bring feelings to a facts fight! The reason the documentary is real is because of facts that have happened and is happening across the globe if you bother to look into it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) Mushroom you talk of beatings in Iran for fratanising, what about internment in N -ireland? The SUSS laws used against the Blacks in UK, aparthied still evident in western society? Rendition Flights, MI5 stopping the police from arresting Amjed Chaudhry for 15/20 years, stinks of corruption and collusion and you want to start pointing fingers get real.. Edited August 22, 2016 by desertbred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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