Trident Debate Today.....

[Blackbriar 8,569]

Later today, parliament will discuss the renewal of the Trident nuclear programme. The debate could open up MORE party divisions.

 

There could be real problems for Corbyn, a rabid opponent of nuclear weapons, as the programme was first proposed by the last Labour government, and his PLP support it...

 

SNP members will vote against renewal, thus threatening thousands of Scottish jobs....

 

Should be a lively debate.....

[Born Hunter 17,959]

Didn't Corbyn begrudgingly declare support for a replacement fleet to appease the unions but then add his "armed with conventional warheads" bollocks to satisfy his nuclear proliferation mates?

[WILF 50,879]

Complete waste of money in a time when the money they do rob everybody of never seems to go far enough to address things that ARE actually happening and going to happen.

 

Let's face it, if some f****r pushes the button the planet won't be worth living on anyway so what was the point in having these things.

[Blackbriar 8,569]

Didn't Corbyn begrudgingly declare support for a replacement fleet to appease the unions but then add his "armed with conventional warheads" bollocks to satisfy his nuclear proliferation mates?

Jezza has stated that he will be voting against, while the Shadow Defence and Foreign Affairs spokespersons will be abstaining. He has been forced into allowing a free vote, to play down divisions.

Labour's PLP is often accused of not getting behind the leader, but here is a case of the leader not getting behind the party............

Edited July 18, 2016 by Blackbriar

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

Complete waste of money in a time when the money they do rob everybody of never seems to go far enough to address things that ARE actually happening and going to happen.

 

Let's face it, if some f****r pushes the button the planet won't be worth living on anyway so what was the point in having these things.

I don't buy the nothing left scenario, nature's one tough cookie I'd bet 10-20 years after nuclear Armageddon earth would be healthier than it has for a few hundred years

[Born Hunter 17,959]

Complete waste of money in a time when the money they do rob everybody of never seems to go far enough to address things that ARE actually happening and going to happen.

 

Let's face it, if some f****r pushes the button the planet won't be worth living on anyway so what was the point in having these things.

 

I don't believe nuclear war would end the world. Look at areas that have suffered nuclear attack or catastrophe already. It'd have to be one hell of a war to be our end.

 

Must admit, I'm torn as to whether I'd rather the money was spent on conventional hardware like a much larger frigate/patrol fleet and more aircraft with possibly a cruise missile and jet based nuclear capability if one at all. I don't believe in letting anybody else provide our sides nuclear deterrent, the Vanguard/Trident fleet does the job best and frankly I do genuinely believe there is a threat or the potential for one.

[desertbred 5,490]

Complete waste of money in a time when the money they do rob everybody of never seems to go far enough to address things that ARE actually happening and going to happen.

 

Let's face it, if some f****r pushes the button the planet won't be worth living on anyway so what was the point in having these things.

Carpets!

[Lenmcharristar 10,334]

Better to have it and never use it than need it and not have it

[WILF 50,879]

As has been shown in Iraq, Libya and Syria they can destroy countries and massacre hundreds of thousands with a few rag head, some oil executives and the click of a mouse.......they don't need to spend trillions on a warhead we will never use .

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

As has been shown in Iraq, Libya and Syria they can destroy countries and massacre hundreds of thousands with a few rag head, some oil executives and the click of a mouse.......they don't need to spend trillions on a warhead we will never use .

 

That's the point of a deterrent though, you don't need to use it,its always working.

[keepitcovert 842]

Not such a pointless weapon as described on here, we need it as a last defence to a hostile country. True the world would be a poisened rubbish tip. I believe germ warfare is more likely to be used in any future conflict as it would leave the infrastructure of that country habitable in the future. But while we are a nuclear power it will make the enemy think twice.

[kanny 21,753]

Looks like there renewing it http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36830923

[walshie 2,804]

No thanks to the jocks. Every Scottish MP bar one (Conservative) voted against it. I'm really amazed any adults can be quite as naive.

 

Considering the shit we have spent billions on lately, I think making sure the world knows our country isn't weak is worth every single penny.

[desertbred 5,490]

Stronger tea bags maybe

[air gun ant 1,666]

It will certainly help my local economy, be a good few years work at barrow for a lot of people