tillylamp 1,940 Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 an optician can tell you alot about conditions, doing an eye test...you would be surprised what they can find. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Lid 194 Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 A treadmill test is very effective to diagnose cardiac problems. I had a significantly blocked LAD (left anterior descending) artery at 44 and I had been walking a round with symptoms for 6 months without realising what it was. The ECG thought I'd already had a heart attack! However 6 months after stent number 1 and it was back to normal, so I was re-diagnosed as severe unstable angina. Definitely get it done, I had friends who have died at similar ages from heart attacks. Here's a picture of my plaque. (A blockage like that in the LAD is known as the widow maker) : My mum had a 100% blockage in her left circumflex artery, the scan has shown minor damage to her heart after her attack. They have just discovered she has diabetes which could have contributed massively to her attack which makes me feel a little better about it being hereditary.I think the best bet for me is to go to the doctors complaining of the symptoms of heart trouble and once there telling them about my Mum and Grandad. I want the full works, blood pressure, cholesterol, blood test, stress test, ecg etc..... You are a lucky boy, you were literally a dead man walking. If you'd not detected one day you'd have dropped dead on the spot. She had a stent fitted but I've told her don't think this is a cure. It doesn't stop further clogging of the same artery in the future, drastic changes to her lifestyle are needed asap. Yeah I surely know it now! Funny thing is I didn't have any of the risk factors - bp and heart rate were relatively low, cholesterol was and is not high, no diabetes, no family history, weight OK, non smoker, etc. Good luck and I hope you are OK. I should add another little story. Not long after my repair. my daughter's headmaster mentioned a few minor symptoms. We told him to see his GP, who said he was fine, but he insisted on being referred. He ended up having a quintuple bypass (ie I think they worked on some side branches too). What made you go to the doctors then and how did they discover it? With everything reading ok what made them take further action? I had been walking a round with symptoms for 6 months without realising what it was, but they got worse. The symptoms I was getting were actually chest pains, ie angina, but the pain started in my throat and sort of worked its way down. I just thought I'd pulled a muscle in by upper chest area when in the gym! Eventually it got to the point where I would have to stop walking for it to subside. I was in Cornwall with my family and one day walking up a hill I was stopping every couple of minutes, so I decided to see a GP when we got home. It was a locum, and he thought Id' be OK, but to be on the safe side he booked a routine cardiac appointment on the NHS which would be in about a month or so. However I was on a private health scheme with work, so I booked a much faster private a appointment. The cardiologist also thought I was probably OK after talking to me and doing an echo cardiagram. Then he wired me up for an ECG stress test, but he stopped me after 30 seconds, made a phone call and did the angioplasty first thing the next morning. The ECG had inverted something waves which suggested I'd already had a heart attack, but in fact it turns out that I hadn't quite had one yet. I believe I as very lucky! He also said that I'd grown my own bypass which had helped me !?? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fireman 11,512 Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 an optician can tell you alot about conditions, doing an eye test...you would be surprised what they can find. In russia for years it's been standard for a eye specialist (can't remember the correct name for it) will check your eyes before any mayor surgary,i knew someone who went to see one and they diagnosed every illness the hospital had discovered and she also told her she could see the trauma child abuse had left on her.The eye expert was not told before hand about the abuse the lass had suffered as a kid but she saw the damage it had left on her eye and knew it was because of that,the eye can sure tell a lot but it's looked on as hippy mumbo jumbo by most folk .. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,678 Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 an optician can tell you alot about conditions, doing an eye test...you would be surprised what they can find. In russia for years it's been standard for a eye specialist (can't remember the correct name for it) will check your eyes before any mayor surgary,i knew someone who went to see one and they diagnosed every illness the hospital had discovered and she also told her she could see the trauma child abuse had left on her.The eye expert was not told before hand about the abuse the lass had suffered as a kid but she saw the damage it had left on her eye and knew it was because of that,the eye can sure tell a lot but it's looked on as hippy mumbo jumbo by most folk .. I remember reading a few years ago an optitician was watching an episode of Poirot and noticed something about the actor who plays him eyes ,(is the actor David Suchet )he wrote to him and advised him to get his heart checked ,turns out he saved his life . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillylamp 1,940 Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 an optician can tell you alot about conditions, doing an eye test...you would be surprised what they can find. In russia for years it's been standard for a eye specialist (can't remember the correct name for it) will check your eyes before any mayor surgary,i knew someone who went to see one and they diagnosed every illness the hospital had discovered and she also told her she could see the trauma child abuse had left on her.The eye expert was not told before hand about the abuse the lass had suffered as a kid but she saw the damage it had left on her eye and knew it was because of that,the eye can sure tell a lot but it's looked on as hippy mumbo jumbo by most folk .. yes mate, it's true....my wife had to have her eyes checked for new glasses, when he looked to the back of the eyes......he said to her..."i see you have had a stroke"...she said..."yes back in 2006 i had a TIA"...he had never met us before, and never had any medical info to know that....so it's all true...there's no mumbo jumbo about it.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillylamp 1,940 Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 A very good mates bro caught a tumor behind his eye after a eye check up He was the picture of health no symptoms Big strapping fit lad ex Royal Marine. yeah, you never know do you max......when you think about it, it's amazing that you can get the knowledge of someones health just looking into the eye, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) My mum is in hospital after suffering a heart attack, she's only 57 which is a bit young. Her Dad died at 59 with a heart attack, he was as fit as a fiddle and only a few weeks prior to his death he had his leg broke in an accident. My Grandmother always said it was something to do with the broken leg that caused his fatal coronary but now I'm not so sure. I'm 31, although I'm in decent shape I must admit I've abused my body over the years taking illegal substances that are harmful to the heart as well as legal ones that are just as damaging. I've had a few funny spells over the years aswell as chest pain on occasions. I've been told that if there's a chance these heart problems are hereditary I'm in entitled to a heart check up, does anyone know if this is true? When you say your in decent shape but have abused your body with substances both legal and illegal are we talking about stuff related to bodybuilding or performance enhancement in any way.......if so its not the substances themselves that are harmful to the heart as the heart is just a muscle.....its what those substances allow the heart to do that can cause problems is their any LVH thats normally associated with what you describe........im no cardiologist but ive a little bit of knowledge and experience in this area if theres anything i could maybe help put your mind at rest with ..........or pm if you prefer.......just dont ignore it in the hope it heals itself. Sorry i didnt read that properly you havent had a check up yet......get it checked mate. Edited July 8, 2016 by gnasher16 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 51,347 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Sorry to detract from the seriousness of it all but it put me in mind on an old Jimmy Jones joke where the brass is about to get serviced by a big black man and she looks at his prick and gasps "I've got a weak heart" and the black man says "I will try to miss it!" 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fireman 11,512 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 an optician can tell you alot about conditions, doing an eye test...you would be surprised what they can find. In russia for years it's been standard for a eye specialist (can't remember the correct name for it) will check your eyes before any mayor surgary,i knew someone who went to see one and they diagnosed every illness the hospital had discovered and she also told her she could see the trauma child abuse had left on her.The eye expert was not told before hand about the abuse the lass had suffered as a kid but she saw the damage it had left on her eye and knew it was because of that,the eye can sure tell a lot but it's looked on as hippy mumbo jumbo by most folk .. Just remembered it's called "iridoligy" and the specialist is a "iridolidgist" but fecked if i know if that's how you spell it correctly .. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted July 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 My mum is in hospital after suffering a heart attack, she's only 57 which is a bit young. Her Dad died at 59 with a heart attack, he was as fit as a fiddle and only a few weeks prior to his death he had his leg broke in an accident. My Grandmother always said it was something to do with the broken leg that caused his fatal coronary but now I'm not so sure. I'm 31, although I'm in decent shape I must admit I've abused my body over the years taking illegal substances that are harmful to the heart as well as legal ones that are just as damaging. I've had a few funny spells over the years aswell as chest pain on occasions. I've been told that if there's a chance these heart problems are hereditary I'm in entitled to a heart check up, does anyone know if this is true? When you say your in decent shape but have abused your body with substances both legal and illegal are we talking about stuff related to bodybuilding or performance enhancement in any way.......if so its not the substances themselves that are harmful to the heart as the heart is just a muscle.....its what those substances allow the heart to do that can cause problems is their any LVH thats normally associated with what you describe........im no cardiologist but ive a little bit of knowledge and experience in this area if theres anything i could maybe help put your mind at rest with ..........or pm if you prefer.......just dont ignore it in the hope it heals itself. Sorry i didnt read that properly you havent had a check up yet......get it checked mate. No mate not of the PED kind, talking about Colombian Marching Powder which is just as damaging to the heart as PED'S. I was thinking of eventually going on a course of gear after a few years of training naturally but now I'm not so sure, it raises your blood pressure and the orals destroy your Lipids turning your cholesterol levels to that of an old woman. If this heart problem is hereditary than I'd be a walking heart attack whilst on a course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terryd 8,972 Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 don't worry about going to the docs that's what they are there for. Don't let them palm you off either and tell them what you want doing for your piece of mind. Though most are good anyway. No point be a hero and not going to docs then drop dead. Bit pointless that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 My mum is in hospital after suffering a heart attack, she's only 57 which is a bit young. Her Dad died at 59 with a heart attack, he was as fit as a fiddle and only a few weeks prior to his death he had his leg broke in an accident. My Grandmother always said it was something to do with the broken leg that caused his fatal coronary but now I'm not so sure. I'm 31, although I'm in decent shape I must admit I've abused my body over the years taking illegal substances that are harmful to the heart as well as legal ones that are just as damaging. I've had a few funny spells over the years aswell as chest pain on occasions. I've been told that if there's a chance these heart problems are hereditary I'm in entitled to a heart check up, does anyone know if this is true? When you say your in decent shape but have abused your body with substances both legal and illegal are we talking about stuff related to bodybuilding or performance enhancement in any way.......if so its not the substances themselves that are harmful to the heart as the heart is just a muscle.....its what those substances allow the heart to do that can cause problems is their any LVH thats normally associated with what you describe........im no cardiologist but ive a little bit of knowledge and experience in this area if theres anything i could maybe help put your mind at rest with ..........or pm if you prefer.......just dont ignore it in the hope it heals itself. Sorry i didnt read that properly you havent had a check up yet......get it checked mate. No mate not of the PED kind, talking about Colombian Marching Powder which is just as damaging to the heart as PED'S. I was thinking of eventually going on a course of gear after a few years of training naturally but now I'm not so sure, it raises your blood pressure and the orals destroy your Lipids turning your cholesterol levels to that of an old woman. If this heart problem is hereditary than I'd be a walking heart attack whilst on a course. Raises your blood pressure for the time you are on them.....thats one of the reasons to cycle.....these are bright times for gear as the sporting world is currently showing....the negatives are constantly being combated by positives but ultimately the heart as a muscle has its limits that gear allows to temporarily get past......but it is just a muscle and must be treated as such. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted July 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 My mum is in hospital after suffering a heart attack, she's only 57 which is a bit young. Her Dad died at 59 with a heart attack, he was as fit as a fiddle and only a few weeks prior to his death he had his leg broke in an accident. My Grandmother always said it was something to do with the broken leg that caused his fatal coronary but now I'm not so sure. I'm 31, although I'm in decent shape I must admit I've abused my body over the years taking illegal substances that are harmful to the heart as well as legal ones that are just as damaging. I've had a few funny spells over the years aswell as chest pain on occasions. I've been told that if there's a chance these heart problems are hereditary I'm in entitled to a heart check up, does anyone know if this is true? When you say your in decent shape but have abused your body with substances both legal and illegal are we talking about stuff related to bodybuilding or performance enhancement in any way.......if so its not the substances themselves that are harmful to the heart as the heart is just a muscle.....its what those substances allow the heart to do that can cause problems is their any LVH thats normally associated with what you describe........im no cardiologist but ive a little bit of knowledge and experience in this area if theres anything i could maybe help put your mind at rest with ..........or pm if you prefer.......just dont ignore it in the hope it heals itself. Sorry i didnt read that properly you havent had a check up yet......get it checked mate. No mate not of the PED kind, talking about Colombian Marching Powder which is just as damaging to the heart as PED'S. I was thinking of eventually going on a course of gear after a few years of training naturally but now I'm not so sure, it raises your blood pressure and the orals destroy your Lipids turning your cholesterol levels to that of an old woman. If this heart problem is hereditary than I'd be a walking heart attack whilst on a course. Raises your blood pressure for the time you are on them.....thats one of the reasons to cycle.....these are bright times for gear as the sporting world is currently showing....the negatives are constantly being combated by positives but ultimately the heart as a muscle has its limits that gear allows to temporarily get past......but it is just a muscle and must be treated as such. I haven't looked into it but surely the heart grows whilst on a course? It's a muscle after all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) My mum is in hospital after suffering a heart attack, she's only 57 which is a bit young. Her Dad died at 59 with a heart attack, he was as fit as a fiddle and only a few weeks prior to his death he had his leg broke in an accident. My Grandmother always said it was something to do with the broken leg that caused his fatal coronary but now I'm not so sure. I'm 31, although I'm in decent shape I must admit I've abused my body over the years taking illegal substances that are harmful to the heart as well as legal ones that are just as damaging. I've had a few funny spells over the years aswell as chest pain on occasions. I've been told that if there's a chance these heart problems are hereditary I'm in entitled to a heart check up, does anyone know if this is true? When you say your in decent shape but have abused your body with substances both legal and illegal are we talking about stuff related to bodybuilding or performance enhancement in any way.......if so its not the substances themselves that are harmful to the heart as the heart is just a muscle.....its what those substances allow the heart to do that can cause problems is their any LVH thats normally associated with what you describe........im no cardiologist but ive a little bit of knowledge and experience in this area if theres anything i could maybe help put your mind at rest with ..........or pm if you prefer.......just dont ignore it in the hope it heals itself. Sorry i didnt read that properly you havent had a check up yet......get it checked mate. No mate not of the PED kind, talking about Colombian Marching Powder which is just as damaging to the heart as PED'S. I was thinking of eventually going on a course of gear after a few years of training naturally but now I'm not so sure, it raises your blood pressure and the orals destroy your Lipids turning your cholesterol levels to that of an old woman. If this heart problem is hereditary than I'd be a walking heart attack whilst on a course. Raises your blood pressure for the time you are on them.....thats one of the reasons to cycle.....these are bright times for gear as the sporting world is currently showing....the negatives are constantly being combated by positives but ultimately the heart as a muscle has its limits that gear allows to temporarily get past......but it is just a muscle and must be treated as such. I haven't looked into it but surely the heart grows whilst on a course? It's a muscle after all. Exactly......hence LVH..............by the way the heart muscle of an athlete grows larger regardless of gear....its not necessarily a bad thing. Edited July 9, 2016 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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