Boxing At The Weekend...

[gnasher16 31,439]

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Edited Wednesday at 21:31 by gnasher16

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[bird 10,014]

1 hour ago, gnasher16 said:

With a strong referee who wouldnt tolerate Fury's mauling and leaning David Haye for the first 4 rounds would have been an absolute nightmare for Fury .....pinpoint accuracy,decent power,explosive.....on a purely boxer versus puncher match up id have fancied Haye there.

Different type of fighter completely but similar to Usyk/Fury the outcome could depend on the referee....Usyk is a far superior fighter so if Fury's not allowed to use his size advantage because of a strong ref who wont tolerate his antics theres a good chance Fury ends up getting disqualified.

good point  that Gnash , god knows how this fight going to pan out,Usyk  team will know what will happen i dare say.I mean what fury 6ft 9in prob com in 18st  5lb there about i was reading he dropped  1 st .Usyk  5ft 3in prob come in 15st   12 lb , same size as Ali  at his best .Yeh weak ref Usyk will loose this deff, the  mauling and holing will sap Usyk. u nless his team can get him to attack quick in/out  like he did with Aj 2 fights. he deff can drop Fury  , he got enough power at nearly 16st, but going to be hard unless strong ref   . 

[bird 10,014]

Just now, bird said:

good point  that Gnash , god knows how this fight going to pan out,Usyk  team will know what will happen i dare say.I mean what fury 6ft 9in prob com in 18st  5lb there about i was reading he dropped  1 st .Usyk  6ft 3in prob come in 15st   12 lb , same size as Ali  at his best .Yeh weak ref Usyk will loose this deff, the  mauling and holing will sap Usyk. u nless his team can get him to attack quick in/out  like he did with Aj 2 fights. he deff can drop Fury  , he got enough power at nearly 16st, but going to be hard unless strong ref   . 

 

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2 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

With a strong referee who wouldnt tolerate Fury's mauling and leaning David Haye for the first 4 rounds would have been an absolute nightmare for Fury .....pinpoint accuracy,decent power,explosive.....on a purely boxer versus puncher match up id have fancied Haye there.

Different type of fighter completely but similar to Usyk/Fury the outcome could depend on the referee....Usyk is a far superior fighter so if Fury's not allowed to use his size advantage because of a strong ref who wont tolerate his antics theres a good chance Fury ends up getting disqualified.

 

 

15 minutes ago, bird said:

good point  that Gnash , god knows how this fight going to pan out,Usyk  team will know what will happen i dare say.I mean what fury 6ft 9in prob com in 18st  5lb there about i was reading he dropped  1 st .Usyk  5ft 3in prob come in 15st   12 lb , same size as Ali  at his best .Yeh weak ref Usyk will loose this deff, the  mauling and holing will sap Usyk. u nless his team can get him to attack quick in/out  like he did with Aj 2 fights. he deff can drop Fury  , he got enough power at nearly 16st, but going to be hard unless strong ref   . 

with a strong ref frazier would a beaten ali everytime they fought lol 

lewis klitschko all use to hit and hold it’s what tall fighters do ain’t it ? 

they won’t be no holding any way usyk won’t be charging in it will be a boxing match let’s see who has the better skill 

[shaaark 11,410]

2 hours ago, bird said:

 fury 6ft 9in prob com in 18st  5lb there about i was reading he dropped  1 st .Usyk  5ft 3in prob come in 15st   12 lb 

Kin el, bird, you're as bad as fury calling usyk a midget!!

Come on, mate, get your act together!! 

[NEWKID 28,583]

2 hours ago, shaaark said:

Kin el, bird, you're as bad as fury calling usyk a midget!!

Come on, mate, get your act together!! 

It's most unlike Ray to be out on height or weight, that's his "thing" lol

[shaaark 11,410]

1 hour ago, NEWKID said:

It's most unlike Ray to be out on height or weight, that's his "thing" lol

If only usyk had been german, or a shepherd?!! 

[gnasher16 31,439]

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9 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

How do you work that out ? Ali had no real size/weight advantage....when he held in the clinch it was for the same reason any fighter holds in the clinch,not to drain his opponent with a 6 inch height and 3 stone weight advantage like Fury does....likewise Lewis/Klitschko were both the same size.....and no holding and hitting is not permitted and shouldnt be tolerated by any decent referee....particularly when one fighter is gaining a significant advantage from doing it.

I remember refs years ago like old Harry Gibbs or Dave Parris would of given you 2 warnings then you're out of there.....a referee is there to not just uphold the rules but also to encourage a good fight.

frazier won the first the second i’ve never seen anyone holding and holding the head as much as ali did ever in a fight ? and the 3rd frazier wanted to carry on ali was trying to jack 

i meant both lewis and klitschko would both hit and hold against smaller opposition 

keep them at distance and tie up on inside has always been used by taller fighters mate 

 

[Greyman 31,535]

Doesn’t your knowledge no no boundary’s lol

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2 minutes ago, Greyman said:

Doesn’t your knowledge no no boundary’s lol

not a lot i can reply to that lol

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55 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Are we actually going to pretend that Fury just " ties up on the inside " then ?.....what would he gain from doing that ?

Fury doesnt " tie up " he mauls......he doesnt " hold " he drags his weight down.

Dont be afraid to say it he does these things for a reason and it works.

Regards the Ali/Frazier bouts you are wrong,but such iconic fights just dont belong in a conversation about Tyson Fury sorry.

i just think he does what anyone would use his advantages