gnasher16 31,602 Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) . Edited September 5 by gnasher16 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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mC HULL 16,325 Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 1 hour ago, gnasher16 said: So Joshua beating some top 10 fighters isnt as impressive as Wilder knocking over 40 nobodies or Ortiz " going at it " with Ruiz......not to be impolite but you just talk like a besotted child where heavyweight boxing is concerned mate.....this is a terrible time for heavyweight boxing and in particular British heavyweight boxing when it could have been a great time. We've got Fury who,with all his embarrassing dodging of fighters and taking stupid play fights with people who have never boxed.....who in any other generation would have been stripped of his belt but has " mental problems " to fall back on. We've got Wilder who,as much as he tries bless him is just not a boxer and has been completely gifted wins in the hope that America doesnt completely lose touch on heavyweight boxing. We've got Joshua who, awesome athlete as he is doesnt really have any real talent for the sport,learning on the job but will run out of time if he is ever to be a complete fighter. And then we've got Usyk who,is by far the best fighter of the lot but probably not big enough to be the best in a division thats purely based on size.....biggest wins. The whole division is a farce that nobody can gloss over or have any of the normal interesting debates that comes with other divisions....its just shit. joshua never beat a reigning champion for a belt gnash did he ? how many heavyweights and there all fed opponents early on has knocked out 40 in a row ? he’s a dangerous puncher in a sport we’re you have to knock a man unconscious. he’s very good at it and got a bronze in the olympics something joshua wouldn’t of got if it were anywere else but london when he won gold fury is a far superior boxer to usyk fighters like chisora and dubois wouldn’t land a glove on him same as whyte made to look shocking totally outboxed i see joshua has stopped talks with wilder he won’t ever sign to fight him neither will usyk the hate for fury is comical he’s won against klitschko in germany a reigning 10 year champion then went to america to beat a ten fight champion who had knocked out everyone he’s fought taking belts away from home against champions then you say and lads talk he’s fighting against someone never fought before it’s pathetic should be stripped was the greatest of all time as you stated muhammad ali stripped of his undisputed world heavyweight championship belts when he went and fought a wrestler in an exhibition ?? while he was the reigning champion so the greatest can do it but fury can’t what’s that about mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 16,325 Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 1 hour ago, gnasher16 said: In a way its a shame that Eubank and Smith couldnt of had one fight where they're both at their best as its an interesting match up....but Smith looked dead at the weight the other night and Eubank looked fragile at the weight first fight....impressed with Eubanks mindset though i always thought he could go places with those genetics. the difference was instead of thinking you’ve got roy jones reflexes and trying slip and slide you just close the distance and tie up every time smith gets close simple but effective smith wouldn’t beat him in another ten times trying i enjoyed it did you go ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackmag 6,417 Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, mC HULL said: joshua never beat a reigning champion for a belt gnash did he ? how many heavyweights and there all fed opponents early on has knocked out 40 in a row ? he’s a dangerous puncher in a sport we’re you have to knock a man unconscious. he’s very good at it and got a bronze in the olympics something joshua wouldn’t of got if it were anywere else but london when he won gold fury is a far superior boxer to usyk fighters like chisora and dubois wouldn’t land a glove on him same as whyte made to look shocking totally outboxed i see joshua has stopped talks with wilder he won’t ever sign to fight him neither will usyk the hate for fury is comical he’s won against klitschko in germany a reigning 10 year champion then went to america to beat a ten fight champion who had knocked out everyone he’s fought taking belts away from home against champions then you say and lads talk he’s fighting against someone never fought before it’s pathetic should be stripped was the greatest of all time as you stated muhammad ali stripped of his undisputed world heavyweight championship belts when he went and fought a wrestler in an exhibition ?? while he was the reigning champion so the greatest can do it but fury can’t what’s that about mate He's very good at it and got bronze in it were does it say in boxing you have to knock them out unconscious every time look at mayweather did he no who is considered a all time great stop it please this fury fan thing has to stop mc Edited September 6, 2023 by Blackmag 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fireman 11,441 Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Blackmag said: He's very good at it and got bronze in it mc stop it please this fury fan thing has to stop Have to give him his due he's rubbing that turd like a trooper to put some polish on it eh, .. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 16,325 Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 40 minutes ago, Blackmag said: He's very good at it and got bronze in it were does it say in boxing you have to knock them out unconscious every time look at mayweather did he no who is considered a all time great stop it please this fury fan thing has to stop mc it’s a good achievement bronze in the olympics black with hardly any amateur experience aswell your aim is to knock the other man out ain’t it? mayweather did and could at the lower weights mate how many people have beaten chisora and whyte as easily as fury did ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 16,325 Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 39 minutes ago, fireman said: Have to give him his due he's rubbing that turd like a trooper to put some polish on it eh, .. he’s unbeaten won every belt there is to win at heavyweight and can box move or go at it and he has heart in abundance what world are you in ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,652 Posted September 7, 2023 Report Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) I've been watching some old British middleweight fights. Brilliant entertainment from genuine fighters who didn't duck each other and enjoyed the sport: Kaylor,Sibson,Minter, Finnegan, Graham, Christie and others. When you watch these fights you realise how much boxing has deteriorated. They are a breath of fresh air. I'm not interested in MMA etc, but at least those guys are genuine pugilists. Which is more than you can say for many modern British boxers. Edited September 7, 2023 by jukel123 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,652 Posted September 7, 2023 Report Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, gnasher16 said: So Joshua beating some top 10 fighters isnt as impressive as Wilder knocking over 40 nobodies or Ortiz " going at it " with Ruiz......not to be impolite but you just talk like a besotted child where heavyweight boxing is concerned mate.....this is a terrible time for heavyweight boxing and in particular British heavyweight boxing when it could have been a great time. We've got Fury who,with all his embarrassing dodging of fighters and taking stupid play fights with people who have never boxed.....who in any other generation would have been stripped of his belt but has " mental problems " to fall back on. We've got Wilder who,as much as he tries bless him is just not a boxer and has been completely gifted wins in the hope that America doesnt completely lose touch on heavyweight boxing. We've got Joshua who, awesome athlete as he is doesnt really have any real talent for the sport,learning on the job but will run out of time if he is ever to be a complete fighter. And then we've got Usyk who,is by far the best fighter of the lot but probably not big enough to be the best in a division thats purely based on size.....biggest wins. The whole division is a farce that nobody can gloss over or have any of the normal interesting debates that comes with other divisions....its just shit. I'll say one thing for Wilder, he's not a quitter. I'm not sure the same can be said for Joshua or Dubois and a few others. I gave Dubois the benefit of the doubt when he had the orbital fracture of his eye against Joyce. But he showed his fragile psyche again against Usyk. Neither Dubois or Joshua are the real deal for me. Edited September 7, 2023 by jukel123 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 16,325 Posted September 7, 2023 Report Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 hour ago, jukel123 said: I'll say one thing for Wilder, he's not a quitter. I'm not sure the same can be said for Joshua or Dubois and a few others. I gave Dubois the benefit of the doubt when he had the orbital fracture of his eye against Joyce. But he showed his fragile psyche again against Usyk. Neither Dubois or Joshua are the real deal for me. spot on jukel the most import attribute is the will to win and to never give up fury has it it’s why he’s so hard to beat and so does wilder he will keep on knowing one shot and his hands raised joshua dubois shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath really but i’d say usyk has it also he won’t quit 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) . Edited September 5 by gnasher16 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 16,325 Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: Too silly to debate mate sorry......im not going to have a serious conversation with a besotted child. did the greatest of all time muhammad ali have an exhibition against a jap wrestler while he was the reigning undisputed heavyweight champion gnash ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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