ChrisJones 7,975 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) I'd like to see them re-introduced but they'll never be managed properly so what would be the point? Edited November 2, 2015 by ChrisJones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 10,014 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Dr. M. Dawson,Paleontologist ♀ 1977, June 28 Prey-testing agonistic charge Ellesmere Island,Nunavut, Canada Doing field work when they were approached by a pack of six wolves. They tried to drive them off by shouting, waving, and throwing clods of frozen dirt. The wolves were not deterred, and began to circle. The lead wolf leaped at Dawson's face, but Dawson pushed back with her arms and leaned backwards, pushing the wolf to the ground before it could bite her, and the wolves departed, but the strike was close enough for saliva from the wolf's flews to be left on her cheek. Munthe and Hutchinson (1978) interpreted the attack as testing of unfamiliar prey, but noted they didn't know if the wolves had encountered people before. McNay notes that the attack resembled others by wolves which had been fed. did a bit of research and found this example of wolf incident on ellesmere island beast : and in places like alaska and siberia there are wolves which have never seen a man and yet more and more people are nowadays active in these areas. guess what? there are nowadays more and more wolf attacks/incidents. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So, how do you, explain elesmere island then sir ?? As, their are wolves on their, that have also never seen man, but the reserchers that have studied them their, have never been attacked..? consider two points, both of which i have touched upon. first, are the prey species running to very low numbers, thus causing the wolves to explore different food sources? secondly, have the wolves been food- habituated to humans, in other words have they been finding human-related food supplies such as livestock or garbage dumps or pets, which cause them to associate humans with food? Really .... thanks for the film saluki, very nice footage. but what is your point, does that film somehow answer my questions above? if the prey had run thin on the ground, and that cameraman had previously been feeding those wolves, do you think the pictures would still be the same? i'm not trying to have a row, just curious how you see things differently to me Below, is a wolf hunter, that knows a lot about them, if you listen to what he says, its interesting.. and if you read my previous post, you will see that the film supports it; wolves fear man when they have been hunted, and the chap saying that they are not dangerous is a hunter - of course they arent going to go after him, they are educated wolves! this thing about benign wolves is tosh, they learn to be scared. the reason man eradicated wolves wherever possible wasnt just because they competed for prey, or killed his livestock, it is because wolves ate his children. No row here.Wolves om elesmere are not to be fed, strict rule for that.! As for the hunter. I have lived in parts of turkey, where wolves have not seen man, they acted curious, but not in any agressive way. Only time i heard, they atacked, was when some local vilegers, would go down into towns on cold winters, to get food and supplies and loose their way in blizzards in the winter and get weak. Wolves, would watch them and attack them when they would be exuasted. Some lived to tell the tale, others did not. Yes, it does snow hard in turkey, for those who think it does not, especially in the higher grounds, maountains. Going back to the oroginal quetion, if certain walves, that feared man, were introduced, then it would be fine, but wolves that have no fear of man, would be a bit dodgy, its hard to do, but i think, if done right, would be good to see them, but in the real world, would take a lot of hard work. thats interesting stuff saluki, got any more stories? did the wolves come into the villages or take domestic animals? did you ever have any encounters yourself? did they hunt wolves locally? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
*The*Field*Marshall* 674 Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Sorry if this has already been put on the tread . . But the size of this?!? Man alive, I've heard boys talk about pits, but there's not a dog on the planet that could tackle a thing like that!! Said to be a 200lb . . Only just seen it on FB 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 5,001 Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 I seen that pic a few weeks ago. Had a look online and there was a question about its authenticity. Cant disregard it tho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brewman 1,192 Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 If it was 200 lb there is no way he could hold it like that. Dead weight is very difficult to hold upright. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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