jacknife 2,005 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 The shooting fraternity always seem to think they stand head and shoulders above the lowly coursers' ferreters ect Hares don't breed like rabbits They not reared in massive numbers in pens So where is the sense shooting them in there Hundreds and sometimes thousands ? Loads get wounded and limp away to die a slow painful death You also take out the strong and some weak survive to breed on a weaker stock of hare With coursing the fit and striong for the best part survive and breed on The weak by feb are culled If they get caught by coursing they die If they don't get caught they survive and breed on a strong healthy population There is no slow death over days All the above evidence points to the fact re Hares Coursing is the Best and most ethical way to Control Hares with their overall well being and future as a species at the forefront Any shooters saying different are looking thru Double Barrelled tinted glasses. one problem you have is a significant number think they can just go onto anyone's land to take hare Also cut fences to run deer through and maybe nick the likes of batteries off gas guns Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hareydave 1,214 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 The shooting fraternity always seem to think they stand head and shoulders above the lowly coursers' ferreters ect Hares don't breed like rabbits They not reared in massive numbers in pens So where is the sense shooting them in there Hundreds and sometimes thousands ? Loads get wounded and limp away to die a slow painful death You also take out the strong and some weak survive to breed on a weaker stock of hare With coursing the fit and striong for the best part survive and breed on The weak by feb are culled If they get caught by coursing they die If they don't get caught they survive and breed on a strong healthy population There is no slow death over days All the above evidence points to the fact re Hares Coursing is the Best and most ethical way to Control Hares with their overall well being and future as a species at the forefront Any shooters saying different are looking thru Double Barrelled tinted glasses. one problem you have is a significant number think they can just go onto anyone's land to take hare Also cut fences to run deer through and maybe nick the likes of batteries off gas guns so in your eyes if you have a lurcher your a thief Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gamerooster 1,179 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Coursing has turned into a numbers game, there is no sport anymore...... and the hares end up ditched anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danw 1,748 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 If we start arguing over which has the moral high ground all that happens is further division. It doesn't achieve anything. I'm just thankful that a lot of the youth in field sports today value all of it. I've got die hard hunting mates that I run the lurcher with that enjoy a bit of shooting and I see a lot of young underkeepers running lurchers and digging. I hope this generation find unity and won't fall into the disgustingly spiteful view of selling their brothers out to save their own skins. there wasn't much unity when digging got banned From who? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 The shooting fraternity always seem to think they stand head and shoulders above the lowly coursers' ferreters ectHares don't breed like rabbitsThey not reared in massive numbers in pensSo where is the sense shooting them in thereHundreds and sometimes thousands ?Loads get wounded and limp away to die a slow painful deathYou also take out the strong and some weak survive to breed on a weaker stock of hareWith coursing the fit and striong for the best part survive and breed onThe weak by feb are culledIf they get caught by coursing they dieIf they don't get caught they survive and breed on a strong healthy populationThere is no slow death over daysAll the above evidence points to the fact re HaresCoursing is the Best and most ethical way to Control Hares with their overall well being and future as a species at the forefrontAny shooters saying different are looking thruDouble Barrelled tinted glasses.one problem you have is a significant number think they can just go onto anyone's land to take hareAlso cut fences to run deer through and maybe nick the likes of batteries off gas gunsso in your eyes if you have a lurcher your a thief I didn't say that I said a significant number gives the sport a bad name Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,642 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Fact is it max? What do you know of facts. Dreamt up propaganda more like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gamerooster 1,179 Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Max hardcore what do coursing men do with there hare's Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RossM 7,979 Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Max hardcore what do coursing men do with there hare's Depends how much time they got and the weather, brush it, or put a hat on................... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,642 Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) Lol @ BH Keep your head in the sand re shooting Hares en mass If you can live with whole sale slaughter in exchange for Pound notes over a Species well being so be it. Coursing is the Best and most ethical method of Hare control and deep down you know it Hang on a minute, what I think is the preferable method isn't important. You want to ban hare shooting in the hope that it'll get coursing back! I'm not putting either above the other, I want both legal! I was talking about your great knowledge of 'facts' regarding hare shooting...... like "huge" numbers crawl off wounded and that they get no chance to pair up. LOL I know these claims are bullshit, but you wouldn't because you are too busy hating to find out! So, back to this game licence...... reckon many shooting men would support you on this knowing what you would do to them? Edited January 16, 2015 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,642 Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Hate? LOL. I don't want anything banning and I want the whole countryside to love each other! LOL. You're the one hating on shooters with your bans and outburst earlier “f**k ya then like most shooters your up your own arse and can't see common sense”. I've seen plenty of animals pricked mate, I haven't denied that. But you say "huge" numbers! Shooting hares is not different to shooting anything else, use the right cartridge/choke and keep the range sensible, 40g #4 for instance. The problem comes when people start banging at them on partridge days with partridge loads, on a dedicated hare shoot that SHOULD NOT happen. So "huge" numbers is bollocks. Likewise about hares not getting to 'pair up'. The dedicated hare shoots take place traditionally in Feb...... the month before the traditional peak of the hare mating season. And well before the finish of the official coursing season, when it was legal. So, what was that about facts?....... And I know, if it was law it wouldn't matter if shooters supported you, that's obvious. But it's not law, it's just a proposal from yourself. So I'm very specifically questioning your morality on it. How could YOU justify a tax on shooters, simply to support your own sport, when YOU would go and stab them in the back in the same breath. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Theres one thing you can be sure of coursing is never going to come back and be the only method of controlling them Show any non hunting shooting person a vid of a dog chasing a hare and then the screaming when it catches it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crazykaz 14 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Soon youl not be able to catch a twig with a dog sad times Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leeview 787 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Max hardcore what do coursing men do with there hare's under NCC rules all hares taken are offered to the landowner. the daywalkers left the dead hares on the land or in ditches because they were just having a walk if they carried them away they were taking game Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gamerooster 1,179 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Leeview, I'm fully aware what they do, and like it as not, they did it before the ban....... coursing men babble on about upmost respect for hares, yet they throw them away to rot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny 2 367 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Leeview, I'm fully aware what they do, and like it as not, they did it before the ban....... coursing men babble on about upmost respect for hares, yet they throw them away to rotJust like the shooters do? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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