Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 We can go a year without any new doctors and nurses, get out of the eu, then we can choose who we let in, Im not looking at a complete ban but we should be choosing more carefully who we let in Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 We can go a year without any new doctors and nurses, get out of the eu, then we can choose who we let in, Im not looking at a complete ban but we should be choosing more carefully who we let in Why would we WANT to go a year without more nurses and doctors, when there is a shortage of them now ? How stupid is it to make it difficult to let in people we NEED, yet have no control over people we don't need, as the law stands now ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,675 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 You could argue that we wouldn't need as many doctors and nurses if we didn't have as many immigrants and nhs tourists. Also the money saved could fund a payrise for nurses we have already here, then perhaps not as many would leave the job in the first place and heyho we then wouldn't need as many foreign staff that can't in many cases speak the bloody language. It boils my piss when we're told Britain is reliant on immigrants, we wouldn't need as many immigrant workers if we didn't have so many bloody immigrants to provide services for. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Brigzy.....Are you not reading my posts properly, where have I mentioned making it difficlt to let in the people we need and Ive already stated we should get out of the eu so we do not have to adhere to their laws, its not as difficult as they want us to believe and if there are hardships tough its all for the greater good, its a good job our grandfathers didnt have the attitude of the majority of the people living in this country today Edited November 27, 2014 by Onlyworkmatters 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Brigzy.....Are you not reading my posts properly, where have I mentioned making it difficlt to let in the people we need and Ive already stated we should get out of the eu so we do not have to adhere to their laws, its not as difficult as they want us to believe and if there are hardships tough its all for the greater good, its a good job our grandfathers didnt have the attitude of the majority of the people living in this country today[/quot Of course I read your post! The first sentence says "stop ALL immigration to the UK", I would say THAT makes it difficult to let ANYONE in. And I'd guess our grandfathers were alive when the Empire Windrush docked, and we were in the middle of the greatest mass immigration in modern history. I think we have the same aim in mind ,just different ways of saying it and achieving it. Edited November 27, 2014 by Brigzy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Brigzy my 1st sentance was" stop all immigration for 1 yea"...., then we can take it from there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,960 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Max, I agree that 11B should stay here, but it's piss in the Ocean. It'd make very little difference alone. And the low paid jobs are hardly taxed at all now. 10k of income is not taxed at all so low paid jobs pay pennies. To reduce tax even more would put the country in a shit state financially. The top 10% of earners already shoulder half the tax burden! And they're the ones that provide the jobs and infrastructure. Our biggest problem is Welfare, Healthcare and pensions! Edited November 27, 2014 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,960 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 It's a start, I agree, and the causes of the problems I agree with, but seriously 11B ain't gonna make squat difference. IMO it should go straight into the defence budget, especially seeing as we expect our military to provide aid these days. It'd make a hell of a difference there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,960 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Nah, I think about a fair bit more, like how the vast majority of the budget is welfare, health and pensions and how adding 11B to that annually would make f**k all difference. Adding 11B to the defence budget would make a huge relative difference and still enable it to be used for genuine foreign aid ops as the military is. Also, strengthening security ops and providing jobs for the hardworking youth of the country, jobs which generally attract native Brits, not foreign immigrants. If I was working for 6. an hour, where that 11B goes would be the last of my worries. Edited November 27, 2014 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tandors 888 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 so we need 100,000 new houses a year to be built on green land to house people, the vast majority of whom are foreigners, which in turn is a burden on all our services and culture, to work jobs which could well become automated in the not so distant future we need depopulation not more people. work ethic would come with decent wages and education, again a cultural aspect. the world at the minute is unsustainable people are literally killing themselves to get here instead of sorting out their own mess, and when they do get here they don't want to integrate we have created so much that has benefitted ourselves and in turn helped the third world we owe them nothing, they need us not the other way round the only people pro immigration are big business owners and crazy people. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Just a random selection off the job centre site for my area.. as you can see most of the jobs are agency adverts ... this is the biggest problem us lazy natives find.. no real contracts .. zero hours contracts ... no fella with a couple of kiddies is going to come off benefit for an agency job that may last 2 weeks or even be none existent ... to then have the ball ache of claiming benefit again & the waiting periods as it all goes through the system Companys who use agencys set up abroard & pay way less than the minimum wage should be taken to task also personally I dont blame any family staying on benefits if thats all there is to offer...no real incentive is it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Everything these days is through agencies to be honest or least 90% I'd say. Was a while I was out of work and they'd ring me up and want me to travel miles for just 1 days work. Probably only got the call because someone had blown a sickie. I'm not lazy just thought it aint gonna do f**k all for me 1 day and they expected you to be grateful lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Everything these days is through agencies to be honest or least 90% I'd say. Was a while I was out of work and they'd ring me up and want me to travel miles for just 1 days work. Probably only got the call because someone had blown a sickie. I'm not lazy just thought it aint gonna do f**k all for me 1 day and they expected you to be grateful lol. Exactly my point, theres no consistency with agencys ... zero hours , 60 hrs one week then nothing .. when you have got mouths to feed & bills to pay you need more than an odd phone call from an agency for 1 days work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) vote ukip, proper brits... Edited November 29, 2014 by Joe1888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 vote ukip, proper brits... Isn't the lion rampant, as in the fat guys tattoo, the Royal Standart of Scotland ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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