lukey 1,621 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 And for those saying it's not like he dragged her down an alleyway well he didn't have to did he? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukey 1,621 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 If so many of these females didn't get themselves p*ssed up, then this sort of rape wouldn't happen as often as it is purported to do. Now the rape of any woman or girl who is not drunk, definitely doesn't want it, but is pressured/forced into it: well, that's another thing entirely and the perpetrators deserve lengthy sentences and be forced to do hard labour for ever more. That's speaking as a female myself, and having worked many years in pubs/hotels, I've seen how alcohol diminishes responsibility and awareness to the extent that I believe those who are blind drunk deserve all they get if they can't even remain in control of themselves. It seems to be a national disease of the young these days, and what the hell is the point of this binge drinking anyway Rant over. Shocking attitude that! They deserve all they get? Disgusting! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 28,940 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) Kev, I get that mate but I just don't think being stupid makes you a "label" If you get in a ruck in the boozer with 3 or 4 dudes and you ding a couple over the nut with a barstool and one dies does that make you a dirty murdering b*****d?........no, you wasn't a murderer in your mind when you walked in, you probably didn't mean to kill them and you probably have no intention of killing anyone ever again! In my mind, it easy to say immotive words like "rapist" when maybe a more accurate description would be "an idiot with no morals" If being a 20 year old idiot with no morals precludes you from playing football then there would only be about 3 teams left in the league !!! Got to be honest mate, I think there's a massive difference in doing what you've got to do in a pub ruck when you're up against it, and waiting it a girls asleep, pissed out of her mind, and shagging her whilst your mates filming it.Like blackbriar said, he's done the time handed out and if some one employs him so be it. If the birds asleep and pissed out of her mind, then she hasn't got the chance to say yes or no, so in my book it's rape. There maybe more to the story but that's the only story we know, so that's my view.. I get what your saying about being young and struggling with morals at times, but I know for sure that would be over stepping the mark, if Finley is 20 years old and thinks that's right id feel I'd of failed him as a parent.. Edited October 18, 2014 by NEWKID 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 28,940 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) Fuking rapist full stop A BEAST!! I wouldn't have got involved if I was in his boots but then I consider myself a decent guy. So when when older if this also happens to my daughter because she got a bit too drunk it will be her own fault? f**k of. It having that one! A decent guy would have seen the girl home safely but sadly she was in the presance of a predator!!I'm afraid mate a few old fashiond values are lacking in a lot of people, this is seen as being cool amongst his mates I guess, But girls are at times the worst drunks to be around, some love the aggro, and some are just dirty slags, no one deserves to be raped though!! Edited October 18, 2014 by NEWKID Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bracken boy 584 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) everybody hates rape and feels for the victim but id also like to see lying women who say they was but wansnt locked up as it can destroy a person.. as for ched he got caught and did some time, not enough but theres bigger crims than him walking our sad streets. Edited October 18, 2014 by bracken boy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 28,940 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Agree completely on the bitches that cry rape BB, that's why it's so hard to convict though. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArchieHood 3,692 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 He should have become a Chef, the media would have left him alone..........http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11166299/Jamie-Oliver-takes-on-paedophile-as-restaurant-apprentice.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,736 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 everybody hates rape and feels for the victim but id also like to see lying women who say they was but wansnt locked up as it can destroy a person.. as for ched he got caught and did some time, not enough but theres bigger crims than him walking our sad streets. I don't think anyone is suggesting this girl lied, my take is that she thought she was all Charlie big bollocks with a few drinks in her, off to the hotel with the pro footballer etc etc etc and got way out of her depth..........on reflection she realised that she meant nothing more than a f**k to these dudes, got angry and ashamed and called it ! Nobody came away from this turn out smelling of roses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 She was staggering home mortal drunk,she hadnt been in there company or even knew any of them until the Footballer in the taxi stopped to "help" her . Didnt one of the Hotel workers inform the authorities because they were concerned for her ? The fact they sneaked out of a back door rather than leave through the front of the Hotel the way they came in speaks volumes . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 For what it's worth, I have read all the alleged accounts of what happened and there seems to be different stories for each account. The fact of the matter, as has been previously stated, he was found guilty of rape. When i was younger it was not unheard of to wake up, thinking where the hell am I, and did I really do that? I am sure a few that I have woken up with have said the same thing to themselves. But, does the fact that we both shit faced and can't remember make it alright? Cos if not, there are a hell lot of rapists out there. TC 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bracken boy 584 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 true t.c. i once woke up next to my girlfriends sister geeez that didnt go down well lol 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 28,940 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 For what it's worth, I have read all the alleged accounts of what happened and there seems to be different stories for each account. The fact of the matter, as has been previously stated, he was found guilty of rape. When i was younger it was not unheard of to wake up, thinking where the hell am I, and did I really do that? I am sure a few that I have woken up with have said the same thing to themselves. But, does the fact that we both shit faced and can't remember make it alright? Cos if not, there are a hell lot of rapists out there. TC Far point mate, and we've all been there.. But ( if the stories true) I don't remember getting videoed shagging a bird that was asleep though, he knew the score she didn't.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 28,940 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 true t.c. i once woke up next to my girlfriends sister geeez that didnt go down well lol How did it go up though?? Lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bracken boy 584 Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 i think we both fell asleep listening to oasis lol champaine supernova lol i dont think many words was said next day hehehe. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 It's great that all you guys are so defensive and protective of women in general, and of course he shouldn't have taken advantage of her like that, but your attitude implies that the man must always be in control of himself whilst a woman can lay there legs open, too pissed to do anything and he must not take advantage of that, never mind if he's almost as drunk/drugged as she is. Double standards there IMO. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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