Allan P 1,152 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 Can you train/exercise a dog to have good stamina or is bred? Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 Of course you can develop stamina but you ain't going to turn a Whippet into a Saluki no matter how fit you get it. 2 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 This is my take on it... Biologically and scientifically stamina is genetic. However the amount of people who run unfit dogs and then say the dog lacks stamina is beggars belief. I would prefer to run a very fit dog with relatively low stamina over a dog bred for stamina which isn't all that fit. Stamina isn't everything. What about recovery rate? Is that fitness or genetic? I aren't sure. 3 Quote Link to post
Allan P 1,152 Posted September 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 So you def need Saluki in the mix for stamina. 1 Quote Link to post
Chid 6,718 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 increase lung capacity = more stamina so just exercise to increase lung capacity will show an increase in stamina 2 Quote Link to post
nans pat 2,575 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 So you def need Saluki in the mix for stamina. wee bit helps.. Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 A dog should be fit before it ever enters a field,the fitter the dog becomes the more wind it will have and the quicker it will recover.Some dogs lack the stamina of others and no amount of exercise and conditioning will change that.Its also naïve to believe that a mutt needs Saluki in the mix to give enough stamina,many Saluki,s are renowned for their stamina and make a useful addition to some lurcher lines,as do Collie curs that are bred from working stock that can run up and down the fells all day,then there is the Bedlington that is also renowned for its stamina,the list goes on and on with dogs that have and do assist the lurcher breeder and the search for their Grail. 2 Quote Link to post
bird 10,014 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 A dog should be fit before it ever enters a field,the fitter the dog becomes the more wind it will have and the quicker it will recover.Some dogs lack the stamina of others and no amount of exercise and conditioning will change that.Its also naïve to believe that a mutt needs Saluki in the mix to give enough stamina,many Saluki,s are renowned for their stamina and make a useful addition to some lurcher lines,as do Collie curs that are bred from working stock that can run up and down the fells all day,then there is the Bedlington that is also renowned for its stamina,the list goes on and on with dogs that have and do assist the lurcher breeder and the search for their Grail. true last season my young dog Buck 1x gsd x grey, deff got very good recovery rate, give him about 1 min rest, from 7-8 runs and he do the same again +again . he pants a lot but it don't seem affect is running =stamina he keep it up all night . my colliex grey Bryn not bad stamina , but never has had the recovery rate of Buck even as a young dog . Don't know if its the xs or the individual dog.? Both breeds in pure form have good stamina, maybe when put to grey or whippet you just don't know what the pup will get from each parent regards stamina. But salukis got to be the best out for stamina definitely Quote Link to post
jeemes 4,889 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 To build stamina to a breeds potential you need to get it running. Build up and up varying the pace. It really needs to be with vehicle or horse. Or lots of chasing. You can be suprised how much wind/recovery a dog can have if its pushed.. A lot depends on the willingness of the dog and if it loves work. I know some breeds have more natural wind but the heart and lungs need to be built up. A dogs heart and lungs are not developed fully until its 2years old so dont push to the limits before then.. Quote Link to post
aaron the coursing man 144 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 gaz a fink a lot to do with stamina and recouvery is fitness but for instance a colie cross isent long winded and wouldent out run a long winded saluki in day but on lamp run after run short bursts rabbits eg a saluki wouldent out run a collie x and for night after night a saluki wouldent run with a collie x because it wouldent hold its weight as good the reason I no this is because I have a good friend I have was into big numbers of long ears on lamp he had a colie type dog wich was highly rated his brother was into daytime coursing on the big land he had a couple of dogs that he rated and he fort they would out run the colliex on lamp and they faild one ran the same one nyt but next night disintegrated the lad with the collie killed 2 on big land and it was nackered but the collie x man said his was a lamp dog 2 Quote Link to post
matt1979 766 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 I don't know much about salukis but I would have thought they must be comparable to greyhounds in terms of some are natural stayers (admittedly over shorter distances than salukis) and some are more sprinty or am I wrong? Never owned a saluki but had racing greyhounds for years and just saying all greyhounds are sprinters or the same is wide of the mark. On another note stamina in general is about lung capacity to a degree but it's no good having huge lungs if the cv system can't get the oxygen to those working muscles quick enough or the muscle fibres aren't genetically inclined towards stamina atb. Quote Link to post
buster gonads 862 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 How did we catch Hares before we readly had Sal blood available. Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 the lung capacity in the dog plays a part but without oxygenated blood in abundant supply the lungs wont function properly to maximum capacity the saluki has the edge on other dogs on stamina because their hearts a larger physically than other dogs thus pumping the blood round faster to get it oxygenated which in turn supplies the muscles and lactic acid does not build up in the muscle tissue as quick. Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) Mr Gonads because before the salukis came lads could walk the land all day to get plenty of runs now as it needs to be done in a reasonably short time scale the hybrids have changed . Model T fords could get you from A to B but not as quick as an Evo does now, times have moved on. atb Edited September 30, 2014 by desertbred Quote Link to post
matt1979 766 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 I suppose you could argue however that cardiac muscle ( the heart) can be developed like any muscle and a poorly trained saluki won't have the stamina of a well trained greyhound for example. But train them both and obviously the results are different atb. Quote Link to post
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