desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 "sat nav is the answer" its been interesting to say the least but need to sort the dogs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Good dont f***ing come back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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socks 32,253 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Dessertbred if you dislike this country and our way of life why the fukc are you here ... Oh yes I remember a previous thread now you are here to get your daughter an education because she couldn't get one in your great country of equal opportunities ......... Shes here to study British Law as a Barrister then she will return to Iran study Shariat law and hopefully in years to come make a better fist of things than we have up to now, as for f***ing off while I am here plenty of room there for you to go if you have the bottle LOL Spent plenty of time in your shit holes sending your kind to meet Allah ............ 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Socks let me ask you a question and give an honest answer a peadophile 10/15 years in prison or chop his head off which is justice or a the two who murdered Lee Rigby prison or heads off? You get wrongfully accused of a crime and are tried not by a judge, jury and reasonable justice system but by a village elder or a strict religious person who follows the text to the letter and does not allow you a trial by jury, just passes judgement as he sees fit and condems you to death, no right to an appeal, no right to speak up, no right to a legal representative as this isn't a legal system, this is a religious justice system. Does that seem like a fair outcome? We believe the Shariat is the Law of Allah or God as you say so who could you appeal to higher than god? Even your own justice system is trying to change the trial by jury to trial by one judge. Shariat Courts are run by Islamic Scholars not village elders. Exactly so if you were wrongly accused you couldn't appeal so would you rather be doing 10-15yrs or be wrongfully executed? What happens in Allah's eyes if you are wrong executed or you wrongfully kill someone? "Your own justice system"? Is that not the same justice system you are living under now then and free to practice your beliefs regardless if they are the same as your neighbour or not? my neighbours as it happens are all orthodox jews their belifs and faith are their concern not mine Peronally I would rather be executed rightly or wrongly than spend 15 years in prison may be because of age,, In islam justice is supposed to be swift in truth islam does not have a concept of inprisonment the closest I suppose would be slavery denial of basic human rights, the most precious of all basic human rights is freedom is it not. Do you eat what you hunt? I only hunt long ears but if my dogs catch it is Halal for me as I trained my dogs so this is permitted for me in Islam any one elses catch would not be I do eat it but not all as I find the meat to rich for me. But doesn't Sharia Law state you must abide by the law of the land and as hunting hares with dogs is illegal here (you've already said you break the hunting ban law) under Islam you are forbidden from doing so as it breaks the law of this land. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Iran became persia then it came back to being Iran our history is one of the oldest civilisations in the world. Unity dont make me laugh is that why the referendum on Scotland is up coming why theFfree State want the 6 Counties back and Welsh nationalists want there own government That's completely different, the separatists of these places can't leave without the agreement of their unionist neighbours. You can! Separatist/unionist divisions are inconveniently purely political and not geographical despite the separatists wanting a geographical divide. Furthermore, the vast majority of UK separatists still consider themselves my brothers. The ones that don't I hold equal contempt for. I have no problem at all with your choice of religion or skin colour, I'm rather liberal like that. But I do have a problem with your 'you (UK) & us (Iran)' attitude. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Dessertbred if you dislike this country and our way of life why the fukc are you here ... Oh yes I remember a previous thread now you are here to get your daughter an education because she couldn't get one in your great country of equal opportunities .........Shes here to study British Law as a Barrister then she will return to Iran study Shariat law and hopefully in years to come make a better fist of things than we have up to now, as for f***ing off while I am here plenty of room there for you to go if you have the bottle LOL Spent plenty of time in your shit holes sending your kind to meet Allah ............ if you had met me you wouldnt be on here guaranteed so careful what you bite off Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Socks let me ask you a question and give an honest answer a peadophile 10/15 years in prison or chop his head off which is justice or a the two who murdered Lee Rigby prison or heads off? You get wrongfully accused of a crime and are tried not by a judge, jury and reasonable justice system but by a village elder or a strict religious person who follows the text to the letter and does not allow you a trial by jury, just passes judgement as he sees fit and condems you to death, no right to an appeal, no right to speak up, no right to a legal representative as this isn't a legal system, this is a religious justice system. Does that seem like a fair outcome? We believe the Shariat is the Law of Allah or God as you say so who could you appeal to higher than god? Even your own justice system is trying to change the trial by jury to trial by one judge. Shariat Courts are run by Islamic Scholars not village elders. Exactly so if you were wrongly accused you couldn't appeal so would you rather be doing 10-15yrs or be wrongfully executed? What happens in Allah's eyes if you are wrong executed or you wrongfully kill someone? "Your own justice system"? Is that not the same justice system you are living under now then and free to practice your beliefs regardless if they are the same as your neighbour or not? my neighbours as it happens are all orthodox jews their belifs and faith are their concern not mine Peronally I would rather be executed rightly or wrongly than spend 15 years in prison may be because of age,, In islam justice is supposed to be swift in truth islam does not have a concept of inprisonment the closest I suppose would be slavery denial of basic human rights, the most precious of all basic human rights is freedom is it not. Do you eat what you hunt? I only hunt long ears but if my dogs catch it is Halal for me as I trained my dogs so this is permitted for me in Islam any one elses catch would not be I do eat it but not all as I find the meat to rich for me. But doesn't Sharia Law state you must abide by the law of the land and as hunting hares with dogs is illegal here (you've already said you break the hunting ban law) under Islam you are forbidden from doing so as it breaks the law of this land. Hunting is allowed in islam so as it in conflict with my islamic belief I do it any way you concern with your laws you hunt so arent you the pot calling the kettle? or is it do as I say not as I do as seems to be the norm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Dessertbred if you dislike this country and our way of life why the fukc are you here ... Oh yes I remember a previous thread now you are here to get your daughter an education because she couldn't get one in your great country of equal opportunities ......... Shes here to study British Law as a Barrister then she will return to Iran study Shariat law and hopefully in years to come make a better fist of things than we have up to now, as for f***ing off while I am here plenty of room there for you to go if you have the bottle LOL Spent plenty of time in your shit holes sending your kind to meet Allah ............ if you had met me you wouldnt be on here guaranteed so careful what you bite off :laugh: ........... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Iran became persia then it came back to being Iran our history is one of the oldest civilisations in the world. Unity dont make me laugh is that why the referendum on Scotland is up coming why theFfree State want the 6 Counties back and Welsh nationalists want there own government That's completely different, the separatists of these places can't leave without the agreement of their unionist neighbours. You can! Separatist/unionist divisions are inconveniently purely political and not geographical despite the separatists wanting a geographical divide. Furthermore, the vast majority of UK separatists still consider themselves my brothers. The ones that don't I hold equal contempt for. I have no problem at all with your choice of religion or skin colour, I'm rather liberal like that. But I do have a problem with your 'you (UK) & us (Iran)' attitude. all the lads I hunt with who know me are more than happy to be out with me as I am with them many of them are EX British forces also we dont have a problem getting on because we leave politics. religion out of our relationships and enjoy each others company. I have many friends and relatives who are ex forces and we have a code of full respect as professional soldiers we are not rag tag and bobtail we trained and did our service and some of us survived . what we supposed to do hate each other you start the hate business your judgement gets clouded and you would not last long in a combat zone like they say you suck it up and move on.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) Iran became persia then it came back to being Iran our history is one of the oldest civilisations in the world. Unity dont make me laugh is that why the referendum on Scotland is up coming why theFfree State want the 6 Counties back and Welsh nationalists want there own government That's completely different, the separatists of these places can't leave without the agreement of their unionist neighbours. You can! Separatist/unionist divisions are inconveniently purely political and not geographical despite the separatists wanting a geographical divide. Furthermore, the vast majority of UK separatists still consider themselves my brothers. The ones that don't I hold equal contempt for. I have no problem at all with your choice of religion or skin colour, I'm rather liberal like that. But I do have a problem with your 'you (UK) & us (Iran)' attitude. all the lads I hunt with who know me are more than happy to be out with me as I am with them many of them are EX British forces also we dont have a problem getting on because we leave politics. religion out of our relationships and enjoy each others company. I have many friends and relatives who are ex forces and we have a code of full respect as professional soldiers we are not rag tag and bobtail we trained and did our service and some of us survived . what we supposed to do hate each other you start the hate business your judgement gets clouded and you would not last long in a combat zone like they say you suck it up and move on.. I fought in a war and fought in several areas of conflict I can honestly say I never started any of them . Edited August 19, 2014 by desertbred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norseman 424 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 as for the free state wanting the 6 counties back, that's balls. I've grown up in a nationalist area, and I can assure you the nationalist community don't want to join the republic. go to the euro, pay through the nose for everything, and get the shaft off the crooks in government. the republic have never wanted the 6 counties back either. why would they want the hole in the pocket? since the peace process most people couldn't give a toss now, and im glad 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 So all the troubles were over drugs and turf? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Socks let me ask you a question and give an honest answer a peadophile 10/15 years in prison or chop his head off which is justice or a the two who murdered Lee Rigby prison or heads off? You get wrongfully accused of a crime and are tried not by a judge, jury and reasonable justice system but by a village elder or a strict religious person who follows the text to the letter and does not allow you a trial by jury, just passes judgement as he sees fit and condems you to death, no right to an appeal, no right to speak up, no right to a legal representative as this isn't a legal system, this is a religious justice system. Does that seem like a fair outcome? We believe the Shariat is the Law of Allah or God as you say so who could you appeal to higher than god? Even your own justice system is trying to change the trial by jury to trial by one judge. Shariat Courts are run by Islamic Scholars not village elders. Exactly so if you were wrongly accused you couldn't appeal so would you rather be doing 10-15yrs or be wrongfully executed? What happens in Allah's eyes if you are wrong executed or you wrongfully kill someone? "Your own justice system"? Is that not the same justice system you are living under now then and free to practice your beliefs regardless if they are the same as your neighbour or not? my neighbours as it happens are all orthodox jews their belifs and faith are their concern not mine Peronally I would rather be executed rightly or wrongly than spend 15 years in prison may be because of age,, In islam justice is supposed to be swift in truth islam does not have a concept of inprisonment the closest I suppose would be slavery denial of basic human rights, the most precious of all basic human rights is freedom is it not. Do you eat what you hunt? I only hunt long ears but if my dogs catch it is Halal for me as I trained my dogs so this is permitted for me in Islam any one elses catch would not be I do eat it but not all as I find the meat to rich for me. But doesn't Sharia Law state you must abide by the law of the land and as hunting hares with dogs is illegal here (you've already said you break the hunting ban law) under Islam you are forbidden from doing so as it breaks the law of this land. Hunting is allowed in islam so as it in conflict with my islamic belief I do it any way you concern with your laws you hunt so arent you the pot calling the kettle? or is it do as I say not as I do as seems to be the norm But I don't hunt hare with dogs or hunt illegally, you do so I fail to see how I am either the kettle or the pot. You can hunt under sharia, that's not my point. You hunt illegal quarry with dogs as you have admitted to so as you are breaking the law if this land you are also breaking sharia law. I'm not too sure if breaking these laws in such a way would make the meat from the quarry halal either. Not only would you be busted under UK law if caught doing so but you're actually breaking the law of Islam or Allah by doing do as it contravenes the UK law, the UK where you live. Made a bit of a boo boo there now haven't you? Ooopsey!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) Socks let me ask you a question and give an honest answer a peadophile 10/15 years in prison or chop his head off which is justice or a the two who murdered Lee Rigby prison or heads off? You get wrongfully accused of a crime and are tried not by a judge, jury and reasonable justice system but by a village elder or a strict religious person who follows the text to the letter and does not allow you a trial by jury, just passes judgement as he sees fit and condems you to death, no right to an appeal, no right to speak up, no right to a legal representative as this isn't a legal system, this is a religious justice system. Does that seem like a fair outcome?We believe the Shariat is the Law of Allah or God as you say so who could you appeal to higher than god? Even your own justice system is trying to change the trial by jury to trial by one judge. Shariat Courts are run by Islamic Scholars not village elders. Exactly so if you were wrongly accused you couldn't appeal so would you rather be doing 10-15yrs or be wrongfully executed? What happens in Allah's eyes if you are wrong executed or you wrongfully kill someone? "Your own justice system"? Is that not the same justice system you are living under now then and free to practice your beliefs regardless if they are the same as your neighbour or not?my neighbours as it happens are all orthodox jews their belifs and faith are their concern not mine Peronally I would rather be executed rightly or wrongly than spend 15 years in prison may be because of age,, In islam justice is supposed to be swift in truth islam does not have a concept of inprisonment the closest I suppose would be slavery denial of basic human rights, the most precious of all basic human rights is freedom is it not. Do you eat what you hunt?I only hunt long ears but if my dogs catch it is Halal for me as I trained my dogs so this is permitted for me in Islam any one elses catch would not be I do eat it but not all as I find the meat to rich for me. But doesn't Sharia Law state you must abide by the law of the land and as hunting hares with dogs is illegal here (you've already said you break the hunting ban law) under Islam you are forbidden from doing so as it breaks the law of this land.Hunting is allowed in islam so as it in conflict with my islamic belief I do it any way you concern with your laws you hunt so arent you the pot calling the kettle? or is it do as I say not as I do as seems to be the norm But I don't hunt hare with dogs or hunt illegally, you do so I fail to see how I am either the kettle or the pot. You can hunt under sharia, that's not my point. You hunt illegal quarry with dogs as you have admitted to so as you are breaking the law if this land you are also breaking sharia law. I'm not too sure if breaking these laws in such a way would make the meat from the quarry halal either. Not only would you be busted under UK law if caught doing so but you're actually breaking the law of Islam or Allah by doing do as it contravenes the UK law, the UK where you live. Made a bit of a boo boo there now haven't you? Ooopsey!! youn are talking cack you dont hunt full stiop by the sound of it or maybe a bit of ferreting I hunt with hawks and dogs so how is it breaking the law shot yourself in the foot. Edited August 19, 2014 by desertbred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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