Bull Breed Again

[neems 2,406]

The last thing anyone wants is more red tape,we should at least try just making dog owners responsible for their dogs actions.

 

if that doesn't solve the problem,then move on to insurance etc

 

though how many dog attacks actually happen on the street?

 

All forcing insurance will do is make these people not walk their dogs,which in turn will lead to more 'accidents'.

[gnasher16 31,310]

The last thing anyone wants is more red tape,we should at least try just making dog owners responsible for their dogs actions.

 

 

Is that not what we,ve been doing for the last 20 years ?... giving fools choices hasnt quite worked has it....id rather take that choice away from them....or at least make it a tougher choice.

[neems 2,406]

Didn't those dykes whose presa killed an old man get 1 year in prison,they'll probably do less than 6 months.

 

that's not taking responsibility,I also mean for people with snarling nasty dogs walking down the road,make them responsible too.

 

Very few of the people who cause attacks will insure etc,they'll just lock up their poor pitbulls/mastiff x's etc in the house and the amount of attacks will probably go up,especially fatal ones involving kids.

[gnasher16 31,310]

 

Very few of the people who cause attacks will insure etc,they'll just lock up their poor pitbulls/mastiff x's etc in the house and the amount of attacks will probably go up,especially fatal ones involving kids.

 

Its like any law.....it will only be as strong as the strength its enforced at......................if a person doesnt insure there dog they get fined/banned/imprisoned whatever..........get dog wardens out and about if a dog is known to be at an address where licence/insurance is not coming up then enforce the law its that simple.

[neems 2,406]

That would have to involve giving dog wardens more powers to be workable,which is definitely not a road I want to go down.

 

Let's just try the most obvious and un-intrusive option first,we can always force old ladies to muzzle and insure their yorkies under threat of it being destroyed if more reasonable measures don't work

[gnasher16 31,310]

Id say we,ve tried un intrusive options and this is where we are at..................personally ive no problem with dog wardens having the power to scan a dogs id chip......thats all it needs be.

[neems 2,406]

We haven't really,not proportionately at least,a dog kills a man in his own kitchen and the owners get a year.

 

is that justice?

will it send a strong message?

 

Dog warden:I hear you have an unregistered dog at this address I'll need to scan it,to make sure it's chipped and insured.

 

baghead: f@ck off (slams door)

 

Now dog warden needs the police,who in turn will need a warrant if they're not invited in,by which time the dogs long gone.

 

what about freemen and 'travellers'?

They'd have to consent for this to apply to them,which of course they won't.

[bracken boy 584]

Im just not in favour of insurance,, i see myself as good to my dogs i care, i walk, groom, feed,love, vets when needed, so im just so against another tax against me as the pathetic actions of scum who dont care for their dogs or law or other peoples dogs, children, and at times themselves, with the things we pay for nowdays more money from my pocket would make me think about owning more dogs in the future, all my life dogs have been by my side so there must be another way to stop pondlife from having dogs

[Bosun11 537]

Personally, I wouldn't give two fecks about whats behind closed doors, it can stay there BUT as soon as it's seen on the streets, which sooner or later it will be, as they are status symbols and need to be shown, it's checked and if found lacking, its gone.. Easy..!

[gnasher16 31,310]

Personally, I wouldn't give two fecks about whats behind closed doors, it can stay there BUT as soon as it's seen on the streets, which sooner or later it will be, as they are status symbols and need to be shown, it's checked and if found lacking, its gone.. Easy..!

 

Bang on......who cares what a dog does to its owner in his own house based on a decision he made.............its innocent people that need protecting.

 

The ins and outs of how such a law would work is way beyond me......but it has to be a better idea than just saying " make people responsible and give them 20 years once their dog has killed a child "

[bird 10,014]

 

Personally, I wouldn't give two fecks about whats behind closed doors, it can stay there BUT as soon as it's seen on the streets, which sooner or later it will be, as they are status symbols and need to be shown, it's checked and if found lacking, its gone.. Easy..!

 

Bang on......who cares what a dog does to its owner in his own house based on a decision he made.............its innocent people that need protecting.

 

The ins and outs of how such a law would work is way beyond me......but it has to be a better idea than just saying " make people responsible and give them 20 years once their dog has killed a chid

true gnash, my nephew is a sky engineer so goes to few houses with dogs there . most times the dogs what ever the breeds been ok . But he went to couple houses where they had big gsd on chain and other house with pits on chains, the worst that would bite you was the gsd , the pit werent to bad. but he told me all the houses had young kids knocking about there and its only question of time that the more kids aren't killed with dogs like above all our dogs were locked away in kennel_runs best for any powerful breed I think better safer than sorry

[neems 2,406]

 

Personally, I wouldn't give two fecks about whats behind closed doors, it can stay there BUT as soon as it's seen on the streets, which sooner or later it will be, as they are status symbols and need to be shown, it's checked and if found lacking, its gone.. Easy..!

 

Bang on......who cares what a dog does to its owner in his own house based on a decision he made.............its innocent people that need protecting.

 

The ins and outs of how such a law would work is way beyond me......but it has to be a better idea than just saying " make people responsible and give them 20 years once their dog has killed a child "

It doesn't have to come to that,attacking or attempting to attack a person without due cause gets you community service and banned from keeping animals should work.

 

 

the point is most of the serious dog attacks happen in the home.

 

And the problem is the owners aren't being punished appropriately,what you're suggesting wouldn't work imo,but we're not at the point where it would be necessary even if it could.

[gnasher16 31,310]

 

It doesn't have to come to that,attacking or attempting to attack a person without due cause gets you community service and banned from keeping animals should work.

 

 

the point is most of the serious dog attacks happen in the home.

 

And the problem is the owners aren't being punished appropriately,what you're suggesting wouldn't work imo,but we're not at the point where it would be necessary even if it could.

 

The difference between what you want and what i want is im at the stage where im happy to cut off the headache by cutting off the head..................you are still happy to treat the headache.

[WILF 49,667]

Gnasher and Bosun....,.you talk good old common sense when it comes to the big dogs lads, well done.

 

My very uneducated opinion is, you take a dog that has generations of breeding for a specific purpose, you them get some tit winding it up for its whole life to make the meanest looking, pumped up beast it can be..........and the animal has no natural outlet !!

 

They are like un-exploded ordinance, they may never go off but if they do some poor c**ts gonna die.

 

I had some bint round my house 2 years ago crying her f***ing eyes out "you know about dogs, can you help me with my EBT I can't cope with him"

 

"NO!"

 

2 years on.....EBT is gone..........she has two mastives now!!!'

 

I f***ing despair, I really do!!!

Edited August 6, 2014 by WILF

[neems 2,406]

 

It doesn't have to come to that,attacking or attempting to attack a person without due cause gets you community service and banned from keeping animals should work.

the point is most of the serious dog attacks happen in the home.

And the problem is the owners aren't being punished appropriately,what you're suggesting wouldn't work imo,but we're not at the point where it would be necessary even if it could.

 

The difference between what you want and what i want is im at the stage where im happy to cut off the headache by cutting off the head..................you are still happy to treat the headache.

probably a city/countryside thing.

 

though what I think you're suggesting would put me and most other decent people off ever having dogs but not address the problem.

 

in which case I'd sooner we just banned all dogs with exceptions made for some working dogs.